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[–] kindred@lemmy.dbzer0.com 97 points 1 week ago (9 children)

This is by far the largest music metadata database that is publicly available. For comparison, we have 256 million tracks, while others have 50-150 million. Our data is well-annotated: MusicBrainz has 5 million unique ISRCs, while our database has 186 million.

Does this mean the MusicBrainz database will soon go from 5 million to 186 million tracks?

[–] xploit@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago

Asking the real questions here...

[–] exu@feditown.com 20 points 1 week ago

Probably not worth it to store the AI tracks

[–] zingo@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That's exactly what I was wondering too.

Acquiring high quality music is already easy enough in most cases.

What I am interested in is the metadata. Accurate tagging of all my files is of high interest.

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[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 77 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I'll strongly suggest to take out all the cheaply AI generated music from this "back up" and save themselves some space.

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm not sure how they would go about doing that at scale without also getting some false positives and removing human music too

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[–] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 56 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

The data they compiled is really cool.

If reading the chart right, the genera with the most artists is opera.

Even if they didn't have the music files, the analysis on the metadata is insane.

Publicly admitting they are the origin of the torrents is definitely ~~a risky~~ an insane move. I don't think they want Sony going after them, but also fuck Sony for locking art behind shitty contracts that forces these kind of projects to exist.

[–] JensSpahnpasta@feddit.org 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Publicly admitting they are the origin of the torrents is definitely a risky an insane move. I don’t think they want Sony going after them

Let's be honest: Everybody is trying to go after Annas Archive. Every book publisher wants to get them, the US government, too and it really doesn't matter if every music publisher wants them also. I hope that they are based in a country where the western systems can't get them

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[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's a wild move admitting that they are the source of pirated content for music here.

We don't need Anna's Archive to go under as a result of Sony going after them because of this....

[–] rainwall@piefed.social 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They have had a dozen or more lawsuits/police actions against them. They are already enemy #1 in piracy terms, so I expect they are okay leaning into it and doing more good for the world.

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[–] lietuva@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

There's definitely gonna be some crazy guy who will put this on their server and stream it to their phones lol

[–] extremeboredom@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago
[–] Agility0971@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Please do if you can and keep seeding it if possible.

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

I stream mine through Plexamp. Up to almost 400k tracks.

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[–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 42 points 1 week ago (6 children)
  1. Over-focus on the most popular artists. There is a long tail of music which only gets preserved when a single person cares enough to share it. And such files are often poorly seeded.
  • We primarily used Spotify’s “popularity” metric to prioritize tracks. View the top 10,000 most popular songs in this HTML file (13.8MB gzipped).
  • For popularity>0, we got close to all tracks on the platform. The quality is the original OGG Vorbis at 160kbit/s. Metadata was added without reencoding the audio (and an archive of diff files is available to reconstruct the original files from Spotify, as well as a metadata file with original hashes and checksums).
  • For popularity=0, we got files representing about half the number of listens (either original or a copy with the same ISRC). The audio is reencoded to OGG Opus at 75kbit/s — sounding the same to most people, but noticeable to an expert.

Perhaps I'm reading this wrong, but is this not a little backwards? Since unpopular music is poorly preserved, shouldn't the focus be on getting the least popular music first?

[–] Techlos@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 6 days ago

If you want that long tail, bandcamp and soundcloud are better sources. The barrier to entry is low with those, and there's a plethora of small, niche artists just doing their own thing.

For a representative snapshot of music though, it's pretty amazing. It shows what a massive percentage of the planet listens to, preserved hopefully across many seeds, and historians will love shit like this in the future.

[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 week ago

Unfortunately if you sort by least popular musicon Spotify, you’ll get nothing but spam

[–] JensSpahnpasta@feddit.org 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It depends on what your goal is: If you want to preserve the music that is important to most people or to the era, you should start with the most popular stuff. And Spotify has a big spam problem. Everybody who thinks he is a DJ wants his music to be on there and there is so much AI music flooding the scene. So it does make sense to backup what people are actually listening and not some AI-generated music spam nobody cares about.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago

I am pretty sure the major labels are already preserving the most mainstream artists. Msybe it should be sorting by the most popular independent artists

[–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 week ago

I mean, they say earlier that music is actually well-preserved, but it's disproportionately popular music. If the goal is then to preserve everything, I'd expect them to go for stuff that isn't likely to be in some random audiophile's collection or whatever then.

[–] UltraMagnus@startrek.website 13 points 1 week ago

The politics of preservation is definitely an interesting one. I suppose one argument in favor of preserving more popular music is that there are going to be fewer popular tracks than unpopular tracks - and they're already at 300TB, which is nothing to sneeze at, especially since it's a third the size of their existing library of ebooks.

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[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (5 children)

This is the one thing on Spotify I can’t get elsewhere. Would be nice to have a non transcode copy.

https://open.spotify.com/album/4emoC6C9fCDkWPdTuxN9an

…Like Cologne (Spotify Exclusive)
Queens of the Stone Age
2013 • 3 songs • 14 min 5 sec

[–] archonet@lemy.lol 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)
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[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Spotify is why I set up a Funkwhale server

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Is funkwhale also a sort of soulseek?

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

AFAIK: Yes. But it's supposedly a pain to set up, so I'll never know the difference.

[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 11 points 1 week ago

TBH I plan to migrate off Funkwhale to something more featureful and yea it was a bit of complex set up. Props to the devs tho, it's open source, stable, and does what it says on the tin

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[–] jaschen306@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago

I guess I gotta donate more to anna

[–] gtr@programming.dev 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Damn, boy! That's a big ass music collection.

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