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[–] H1AA6329S@lemmy.world 60 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (18 children)

Breakthrough technology, never seen before in the mobile market. Apple, like always, surprises the word with the latest never seen before tech that will become mainstream in the near future, thanks to apple and its affordable pricing for everyday customers.

Now just slap that 2,5-3k RRP on the device and let it sell out in.

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[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 120 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (25 children)

Assuming he's right (and boy, being sued by apple is a huge boost to his credibility), they're keeping the stupid camera bump thing from the air???

[–] scratchee@feddit.uk 90 points 1 day ago

The camera bump sure isn’t going away for a folding phone. cameras have fundamental volume requirements to maintain quality, if they don’t think they can justify making the normal iPhone thick enough to enclose the camera then there’s no way in hell they’ll think the folding phones doubled width can include it, if anything you’d expect it to be more prominent on a folding model

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (6 children)

It does not surprise me that the Air is literally the folding phone without the second screen.

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[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

how do you propose removing it?

there are two options, 1) using a smaller,shittier camera, or 2) making an extremely thick phone. neither option is very “apple”, especially for a flagship model.

considering the vast majority of people use phone cases and will never notice the bump anyway, i think this whole thing is blown way out of proportion.

[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 6 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

No thicker than very popular and successful phones from just 5 years ago. They can use the extra space for a larger battery, so they dont have to nerf performance to maintain stability in older phones. They can also use the space to restore repairability.

But probably not for a folding phone, since making both sides that thick will probably be too much.

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[–] 0x0@infosec.pub 10 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

making an extremely thick phone

lol how is 11mm extremely thick

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[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

The marketing about it being an incredibly thin phone was a misstep - it just looked absurd to have such a chunky lump stuck onto it, and it felt very much like they were attempting a have cake / eat cake situation by claiming it had incredible camera stats (which werent very good) to justify the bump on an otherwise amazingly thin phone, and then that giant electronics bump had an external lens on it too.

Had it just been an ugly phone, I doubt it would have met with anywhere near the same criticism, but all the adcopy about how thin it was overtop of photos where you could see it had a giant lump on it felt really dishonest, and if this article is accurate it may count among the biggest apple flops ever.

(The thickness may just need to be accepted at this point. The S25 Ultra is 8.2mm, which is thinner than the Air if you include the bump. It seems like the camera wasnt the issue then, but that they hamstrung their design team with their drive for a thin phone. What elegance might even an extra millimeter of chassis space produced?)

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 15 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

What elegance might even an extra millimeter of chassis space produced?

People really don't seem to understand that in the electronics world, one single millimeter can make worlds of difference.

You absolutely can cram so much more stuff in "dumber" electronics, but phones are even more constricted in design, because they need to send and receive signals of different types, so feedback and signal noise are concerns.

Adding in even slightly more space allows for much better design, because you have more tolerances to reduce signal noise. It allows dozens of wires for camera sensors to route better. A 20% longer battery life. Heck, just being slightly more ergonomic and less droppable is a bonus to slightly thicker phones.

I didn't even consider signal noise until I got into fpv drones and rc stuff, it can mame a ton of difference if you have a single wire 2mm out of place. (and crash your drone because the motor interfered with your antenna)

Thiner≠better.

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[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

are you talking about the Air? last time i checked all iphone models have a camera bump.

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[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 9 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

The biggest problem with these is the price. Apple wants us on a two year upgrade cycle but these phones are $1500-2000. That’s insane.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

He says potentially 2000-2500 for this one.

I just bought a 1-year-old phone I really like for $120

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[–] theherk@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Remove the outside screen and all cameras and I’d be slightly more interested.

[–] noodlejetski@piefed.social 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

remove all the screens and the charging port and I'm sold.

[–] glowie@infosec.pub 14 points 1 day ago

Remove the whole phone and I’m touching grass

[–] theherk@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago

More of a fidget toy at that point. I’m in. I’d go as high as $8.

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