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[–] AlHouthi4President@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 hours ago

Reminded me of an old one

[–] undeffeined@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Isn't Russia also an Oligarchy?

[–] hamid@crazypeople.online 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The intent is to imply that they are the same thing. Neither RT nor US/EU media are wholly reliable or trustworthy.

[–] undeffeined@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 hours ago

Ah, that makes sense

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I guess media literacy is when you think those are the only two options.

[–] hamid@crazypeople.online 1 points 6 hours ago

If that is your take from looking at this meme then you are taking way more from it than is present

[–] termaxima@slrpnk.net 24 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Don't get second opinion syndrome. Just because the "good guys" are actually bad, doesn't mean the "bad guys" aren't also bad.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 hours ago

Western liberals continue to get their politics from children's fiction

[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 14 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

Good guys and bad guys don't exist in real life though, because real life has no screenwriter. Better to learn the perspective of all parties and cross-reference them like an investigator

Whoops lol just noticed your quotation marks, seems like you probably roughly agree

[–] termaxima@slrpnk.net -4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Indeed, I mean "good guys" and "bad guys" in the usual narrative !

This kinda post is also stuck in a sort of a false dichotomy where you have to choose between the US or Russia. Why ?

I'll stick to Europe, personally, although I'm aware there's lots of sucky stuff here as well.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Europe is essentially the vassals of the US Empire, so any pro-European stance is almost always in the context of perpetuating imperialism or trying to gain more leverage to no longer be vassals of empire. It's impirtant to recognize that, in a conflict between Russia and the US Empire, the US Empire winning continues to fuel imperialism, while Russia winning results in a dramatically changed geopolitical field. In the context of bringing about socialism globally, the US Empire is by far the largest obstacle.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml -2 points 12 hours ago

Good guys and bad guys definitely exist. Most who seek power are bad guys though.

[–] hamid@crazypeople.online 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I am able to read and think critically. How can you understand anything if you don't read it and apply critical thinking to it? If you just read one side of media you are missing part of the picture.

I also don't live where you do. I don't think Russia is any worse than the US or Europe.

[–] termaxima@slrpnk.net -1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Reading two different lies doesn't make you any more informed, though. You don't have to participate in this charade at all.

[–] hamid@crazypeople.online 4 points 9 hours ago

I don't assume that Russians are lying more or less than Americans or Europeans. You believe this because you lack the ability to think critically and hate Russians because your government told you.

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Enablers are bad, yes, but invading aggressors are worse.

Your comment reads like “both sides” Russian propaganda.

[–] hamid@crazypeople.online 5 points 11 hours ago

Imagine believing western imperialists aren't invading aggressors. Tell me you live in the imperial core without telling me you live in the imperial core.

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And BBC, that's not state media though according to the arbiter of truth youtube

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago

In fact, suggesting that the BBC is anything other than upstanding will land you on the shitlibs' list of "extremism".

“The BBC is not a credible news source” - https://lemmy.world/post/35824465 ^[https://lemmy.world/post/29072279]

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Did labour conservatives ever remove or undo what tory conservatives did to the BBC to make it more like fox News/news Corp media?

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 11 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Nope, and they made them even more zionist

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Both bad.

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For the downvoters:
:^)

[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 day ago

Sometimes I go to .world to see what the state media dislikers are reading, and it's kyivpost, kyiv independent, pravda ua...

[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 11 points 1 day ago (6 children)

;)

Billionaire mouthpieces are all the same even if you believe they are different.

Fuck Russia and all its bullshit propaganda. Gtfo with this insane straw man no true Scotsmen begging the question super combo of logical fallacy.

This is some fucking dumb shit right hyuh.

The People are the Power. The rich are gonna learn it too late.

[–] Samsuma@lemmy.ml 10 points 13 hours ago

libs under OP's post lying through their teeth implying that they equally apply critical thinking (if any) between bougie media outlets rather than just viscerally rejecting one that isn't Western enough to their liking.

Cut the shit, you libs don't actually believe that they're "all the same".

[–] BanMeFromPosting@hexbear.net 9 points 15 hours ago

Fuck Russia and all its bullshit propaganda. Gtfo with this insane straw man no true Scotsmen begging the question super combo of logical fallacy.

Fallacy fallacy.
Also none of your fallacies apply lol. A meme representing a pretty common occurrence isn't strawmanning, unless any representation of any persons opinion is a strawman, which would make the concept entirely meaningless. I don't even get how you get the two others except by being a bot that exists to deploy thought terminating clichés.
Go back to Reddit where these trite regurgitations earn you le gold instead of derision. Or go back to the server farm in Langley.

[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 8 points 22 hours ago

straw man no true Scotsmen begging the question super combo of logical fallacy.

This is like the exact opposite of magic words of power. Magic words of impotence

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 3 points 18 hours ago

Go back to reddit

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago

How do those logical fallacies apply here? I'm confused.

Billionaire mouthpieces are all the same even if you believe they are different.

That's kind of what this meme is saying.

[–] hamid@crazypeople.online 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The only fucking dumb shit is this comment you left in my inbox. I don't think you understood the meme at all.

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[–] SmoothOperator@lemmy.world -1 points 13 hours ago

I don't think they approve of billionaire run western corporate media either.

[–] Ummdustry@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

imagine approving of any media

[–] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago

I approve of CD-ROM

[–] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

RT News: Russia is good and Ukraine is evil.

Bloomberg: The rich deserve all of your money and human rights.

The words of RT news are entirely untrustworthy when it comes to the issues the Russian state cares about, and if it's entirely irrelevant to the Russian state then one ought to question why Russian state media is talking about it. May as well listen to the words straight from Putin's mouth.

[–] hamid@crazypeople.online 7 points 11 hours ago

Have you ever heard of critical thinking and deriving understanding from words using lenses?

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