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Because then most of the people being deported right now would just be deported to the US, causing a paradox and unfolding reality.
Because they havent been paid to do so yet. They dont work for us.
it's not a law that one country can make. it's a law that requires agreement between countries via international treaty
We could easily, and should, implement a law saying that people must be deported back to their own country. It just means fewer people would be deported.
it's not a law that one country can make. it's a law that requires agreement between countries via international treaty
Still not getting it.
The US can create a law saying "you can only deport people to their home country". And if the home country doesn't allow that, don't fucking deport them.
It's basic empathy.
Otherwise, let's just all deport them all to Antarctica. It would save a lot of money on logistics, if we're willing to not give a fuck.
your wording here is more clear. that makes more sense. yes that sounds good
Whoosh
Mainly because the law is working as intended. Also because you would have to define what "their own country" is. Think of DACA recipients, who in many cases don't even speak the language of the place where they were born, have no cultural or family connections back there, is that "their own country" if the are more USian than anything? What tablet the opposite? naturalized Citizens who very much retain the cultural and heritage connections, at times even creating separate cultural enclaves.
It is almost as if "your own country" is a made up racist concept that gets wielded by power structures to keep people at each other's throats.
Because they are sociopaths that have zero empathy for those they deport.
Because our laws only protect the wealthy, enforce racism, sexism and are getting worse and more genocidal in real time
Do you remember how prisoners were kept in Guantanamo Bay, even after they were no longer suspected of any wrongdoing, simply because there wasn't a country that would both accept them and treat them in accordance with US law? Many of those prisoners ended up nowhere near where they came from.
Some countries refuse to accept deportees. Some countries are so likely to mistreat deportees that sending them to those countries is illegal. Some countries simply don't exist anymore.
Were? Thereβs guys still there
The fucking thought that Americans feel superior enough to not allow another country to take them...in this case from their extra judicial torture black site.
The Uyghurs in Guantanamo didn't want to go back to China.
I don't know what the US congress is any more, but in other countries it's because they really really want to expel someone and the deportee's home country might say "no thanks, they're your problem".
In case of the US they'll ask βOh? You reject him? You and what army?β
You can't really deny the US much, y'know.
Afganistan said no when the US wanted Bin Laden. Two and a half trillion dollars later the exact same people are back in charge and now they're armed with modern American weapons instead of vintage Soviet ones. Everyone lost except the people who said no to the US.
BS. You think the US is going to invade over not accepting a deportee? The rest of the globe is not so scared of the US that they will just do whatever silly BS the US asks, especially now that we've been proven to be a bunch of impotent clowns.
Republicans don't care.
To the current constitution-violating republican administration, none of this matters and the cruelty is part of it. That said, let's play a game:
- what is the country of someone who grew up in the US, possibly speaking only English?
- what happens if the country is inaccessible for some reason (countries occasionally collapse or close borders)
- what happens if the borders of the country change and the person's hometown (or all their family) is now in country X instead of their country of birth Y
There are probably more weird edge cases that would need to be in any law as well.
Yup. Just waiting for a little while from now when Trump starts deporting Ukranians to Russia because "well the place they came from doesn't exist it's Russian now"
Laws don't matter. The government is breaking laws left, right and centre.
Unfortunately for Kilmar Abrego Garcia, he is from El Salvador and in 2019, an immigration judge granted him withholding of removal status due to the danger he faced from gang violence if he returned to El Salvador.
Right. That is why the Administration position on this has some merit which the courts need to defer to. As an El Salvadoran who is back in his home country, the US cannot compel his release. All the US can do is ask nicely.
But, they haven't even done that. Which is why the courts are so pissed. They know all this, and they know that all the administration has to do is prove they asked, in good faith. They won't even go that far. They did that performative thing where the El Salvadoran President said "We won't send him back since he's a criminal", but the courts in the US don't consider him a criminal.
There is no better definition of "contempt of court" then what the US is doing right now.
I know you're not defending the administration, but I wouldn't consider the administration's position to have any merit. They sent him to the prison and are paying for him to be imprisoned there. Giving them an inch of credibility on technicalities just means they'll continue to do what they're doing.
But that's the Court's job, to look at all the technicalities. The Administration sent him there "erroneously", but since he is there now neither US courts nor the administration can compel his release. The Courts need to acknowledge that, while also acknowledging that the Administration likely did it this way on purpose, and the whole "administrative error" thing is a crock of shit. But they can't come out and say that. And that gives Trump a wedge to split the whole thing apart.
Fascists are good at using the fact that their opponents need to uphold the law against them.
Fascists are good at using the fact that their opponents need to uphold the law against them.
Your comment is correct as much as I hate it. But to the quoted portion, their opponents don't need to. They choose to. And it drives me insane that they think that we can operate within the system the fascists are actively ignoring to fix this. The "normal way" things are done is gone, it's time to stand firm and take action.