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I asked him "what color were the clouds back then?" and he said they were white. I asked him what happens if I take an orange light and light up something that's white with it. He ignored me. He went on about how everyone in his age group remembers the Sun being orange, and by me questioning him, I'm calling him and all his peers liars and I'm stupid because I'm younger than him and vaccinated.

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[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

Don’t validate that kind of idiocy with an argument, just say “sure, you’re probably right.” and brush off the idea of even talking about it in general.

[–] hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 17 hours ago

The sun is white, but the atmosphere reflects and scatters blue, allowing red and yellow to pass through. You see this effect in mornings and evenings when the sun's light passes a much further distance in the atmosphere due to its low inclination. Your logic is sound, the clouds do appear orange at that time.

The only time you can safely look at the sun enough to determine its color normally is a sunset when it is tinted orange. I can see how he might have come to this conclusion but.... wow...

[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

This person is either at least mildly psychotic or fucking with you. It's wild that people are down here in the comments offering evidence when the entire concept is entirely absurd. This isn't an age or intelligence or experience thing this is a "this person is unhinged, don't interact" situation.

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago

Science went from researching medicine and technology, to desperately trying to disprove all the shit dumb people posted on Facebook, like that the earth is flat etc.

[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I remember the sun being orange, but also I remember not being able to look straight at it and having it depicted on TV and pictures as orange so thats probably where that impression came from.

Maybe also sunglasses have changed over the years? Maybe our eyes change as we grow and we actually could see it as orange back then? Streetlights used to be orange but are white now, maybe that mixes in the memory?

Theres lots of explanations for the misunderstanding and none of them involve God changing the light bulb.

Exactly! It's not some Tesco bulb, this bulb will last a while. It hasn't burnt yet. People. I swear lol

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 4 points 1 day ago

This is an old Mandela effect.

The issue is that they don't actually remember what the sun looked like, because you can't really look at the sun.

Their memories are of the crayon drawings that they made in school.

The sun is orange, when it's dim enough to look at in the evening.

That's because the atmosphere takes all the blue away

[–] IronpigsWizard@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Your friend is mentally ill or an idiot, likely both.

[–] NachBarcelona@piefed.social 30 points 1 day ago

Your friend is a fucking idiot.

[–] Sunsofold@lemmings.world 13 points 1 day ago

That's not a friend. Friendship is between approximate equals and requires respect and trust. He does not trust or respect you. He looks down on you for your age and ignores your valid arguments because of it. If you have any choice in the matter, get away from this person and find people who, even if they disagree, will do so from a place of reason and respect. Do not be fooled into thinking someone is a 'friend' just because you interact with them regularly.

[–] ashughes@feddit.uk 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Your friend has fallen down a far-right conspiracy theory rabbit hole. Sorry for your loss.

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

not even necessarily far-right, i jnow plenty of leftists/liberals that are dumb as fuck and believe in horoscopes and other stupid shit like that

[–] notgold@aussie.zone 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Down votes are funny here. You are 100% correct, Idiots exist on all polical compass points.

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[–] leadore@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

That person has probably been using ChatGPT. Either that or this post is itself LLM-generated. One or the other.

[–] fiat_lux@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (3 children)

While the conclusion of it being replaced with an LED is obviously not what happened, I think it's very possible that the sun was often orange for him when he was growing up, because of air pollution.

30 years ago, depending on where you lived, there were more cars on the road with less efficient fuel consumption, more people using fireplaces, more people burning trash, less regulation of various industries etc. Searching for images with the phrase "smoke pollution sun" will give you a lot of photos of orange suns, and they're definitely not all altered for effect. I've seen red suns in real life too when wildfires are really bad near my area even though that's thankfully rare.

We know not the sun itself that is orange, but in a polluted environment it certainly looks like it is - and if you don't get a great education, I can see how you might think that's the actual color of the sun.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've never considered the colour of the sun. I'm going to get my telescope out and have a look later today!

[–] fiat_lux@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Careful of your eyes! I'm pretty sure you need a special filter or telescope for the sun

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Nah it'll be fine Ill just have a quick peek!

30+ years ago skies used to be silver in cities from smog. Going across the mountains into Los Angeles could be like going to a different planet.

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[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago

LEDs don't generate the necessary level of heat...

[–] echolalia@lemmy.ml 43 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm going to take a different stance to a lot of the posters here.

Your friend may be showing signs of undiagnosed mental illness.

If you value him, listen to him and confront him when he has broken away from reality. But don't argue with him. Be firm in your disagreements but don't argue.

Be supportive of him if you can. Make sure he has a support network (parents siblings others)

Sometimes mental illness does not manifest until early adulthood.

Know your limits. Care for yourself.

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[–] ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca 158 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Yes. If the sun was orange, the light would be orange, and everything white would be orange.

The fact that your friend believes the sun was replaced by a giant LED is a sign they should not be your friend anymore

[–] tyrant@lemmy.world 89 points 2 days ago (16 children)

Your friend is either trolling you or a complete idiot.

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[–] Apepollo11@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (14 children)

But the sun is hot. You can feel the heat radiating from it.

LEDs are not hot - that's pretty much the main reason that they're energy efficient, they don't waste energy as heat.

It's not suddenly gotten colder, so if they did switch to LEDs, then they're also artificially compensating for the heat. Which would completely defeat the purpose of switching (presumably from an incandescent bulb) to LEDs.

Also, I'm super intrigued about who is supposedly behind this sun-bulb maintenance, and more interestingly, what could possibly be powering it

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[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Did they look at the sun during a fire event?

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Or maybe location dependent - we have significantly reduced air pollution in most places. I can easily imagine places with chronic haze that are no longer so

[–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 65 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

A simple google will tell anyone the following

The Sun is white. It appears yellow from Earth because of scattering from the atmosphere. Its peak visible light is in the green part of the spectrum.

He could be a liar, I dunno, but he is definitely a doodoo head

https://sciencenotes.org/what-color-is-the-sun-hint-not-yellow/

Edit: your friend is almost certainly unconsciously mistaking the shift to LED bulbs as the “deyellowing” of society

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 43 points 2 days ago (7 children)

We perceive the sun as white. That's a fairly important distinction.

The reason we perceive the sun as white is surely because the sun has output basically the same spectrum as long as humanity (and a great deal of humanity's precursors) has existed. We evolved with our eyes considering the spectrum the sun kicks out as fully white light, comprised of the sum total of electromagnetic frequencies we're able to receive with our eyeballs.

There is no such thing as objective color of any light. Our understanding of color is completely based on our perception of it. If the sun's peak output were in the 590–625nm range (what we currently perceive as orange) for all that time rather than in the green part of the spectrum it is in reality (500–565nm), we undoubtedly would have evolved to see that particular spectrum combination as white light instead.

All of the above notwithstanding, if the spectrum output of the sun changed overnight like OP's idiot friend is suggesting, it would be immediately apparent to everyone who isn't literally blind.

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[–] MantisToboggon@lemmy.world 52 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

You should get them a carbon monoxide detector.

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[–] IntrovertTurtle@lemmy.zip 44 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (9 children)

because I'm younger than him and vaccinated.

Bruh your friend is a conspiracy theorist. There's no arguing with him because he already thinks Bill Gates created the Corona virus to exterminate humans so the underground lizard men can retake the surface (actual quote from a conspiracy theorist I used to know, and claimed the same kinda batshit bullshit your friend is saying).

Honestly? Your best bet is to just not engage with them when topics like that come up. Incredibly difficult (sometimes impossible) to get them to realize the fairy tales they've convinced themselves are real, aren't actually.

If it gets too much to handle, probably best to cut ties.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 29 points 2 days ago

sun..... LED...

Yeah your friend is an absolute idiot and should ask for his money back from his elementary school

The sun has been around for billions of years and pretty much hasn't changed color since. Thinking you can "replace" the sun's "LED" makes me wonder if he is experiencing mental illness, honestly

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 6 points 1 day ago

Typical. You react with a realistic response to his nonsense, so he attacks your character and your intelligence. You must be stupid for not buying into his super dumb idea.

I'll bet he's a flat-earther, too, and you're an idiot for not being able to understand how obvious it is.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

but got replaced with a white LED.

time to find a new friend.

there's no point when someone believes that. move on.

[–] cv_octavio@piefed.ca 21 points 2 days ago (3 children)

White LEDs are categorically not 30 year old tech, even if the rest of this theory wasn't gunpowder caliber guano.

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