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[–] her01n@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Copyright infringement is not theft, and it is not immoral. It has never been, and it will not start to be, just because a company we don't like is doing it.

[–] FudgyMcTubbs@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

All im saying is if the courts determine a business can use copyrighted material to make profit without permission, that seems to set a precedent that makes the high seas legal. Those pirates often arent even profiting off it.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 days ago

Finally, based .world

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[–] DornerStan@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 3 days ago

It just proves that property rights are, and always have been, arbitrary, based on power and material incentives. Not the inalienable rights that liberals think they are.

[–] jcg@halubilo.social 3 points 2 days ago

I think the question of fair use is separate from the question of piracy, and probably separate from the question of intellectual property in general. Even if we were to protect fair use, that doesn't make it legal to wholesale copy books. Individual piracy from people who can't really afford it is one thing and largely harmless, even a net good. I know people who only started reading books from particular authors because they pirated one copy and bought others. That's very different from a company downloading entire libraries of books without paying. Shifting the question from piracy to fair use is just another way of making you think of the wrong question.

I'd like to live in a world that doesn't gatekeep property. But we live in a world where artists aren't paid for their work directly, and in that world intellectual property is necessary.

[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

OpenAI has already lost the AI race.

Hippity hoppity abolish intellectual property

[–] mr_eckneim@feddit.org 28 points 4 days ago

Oh no oh god what would we all do if the AI race finally ended. How disasterous can something be OH NO …

[–] hamid@crazypeople.online 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Of all the problems I have with AI, intellectual property is not one of them.

[–] lastlybutfirstly@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Between all of the AI hype and the AI panic, my biggest concern is that the laws will be so poorly written that simple algorithms like A* will end up illegal and AI in general will be outlawed. We'll have a Butlerian Jihad because a bunch of daffy CEOs simply said their machines will replace humans when they can't. Our children will be forced to drink sapho juice and eat spice so they can work in a server farm made of humans.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 days ago
[–] Prox@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I can't wait for this stupid fucking bubble to pop.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yep, burn it down, and take these paychpathic losers with it.

[–] beyond@linkage.ds8.zone 3 points 3 days ago

You wouldn't download a car

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago
[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago

This guy has the kind of face that made me completely unsurprised when the allegations from his sister came out

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Protecting fair use is more important than any hate-boner toward chatbots.

[–] timmytbt@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, but AI scraping humanities creative output is not what I would consider fair use!

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works -2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Training is transformative use.

A gigabyte of linear algebra that can rap about the Silmarillion is plainly not just copying. It's not even large enough to contain a meaningful fragment of every book that shaped it.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 days ago

Downvoters don't know what "fair use" means. Or do, but would rather work backwards from kneejerk opposition to an outcome.

A robot read every book in the library. That's what libraries are for. If it can't reproduce any book more closely than a Wikipedia summary, and serves a different purpose - that's a protected work.

You're just not thinking about all of the car companies that would benefit from having so many more cars to sell!

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Not true. If you could just take any car you wanted for a drive there would no need for car thieves.

[–] Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 days ago

Why dont he just provide his own teachings

Start an ai class room so ai companies can pay indians to make videos on subjects for them