Technology

I keep researching alternatives, and every time I circle back around toward Matrix, despite criticisms. Part of it is a question of what everyone is using. I pretty consistently see that groups who use or used to use irc are now using Matrix additionally or as a replacement.

Part of me would like xmpp to be the best answer, but I've yet to see an implementation that handles public communities well, particularly for anything that functions at all like Discord. Matrix seems to be at least gaining voice/video chat support?

that will do it. was thinking about over-moderation and reddit mentality moderation ideas/power trips. never jumped into tw/reddit/ but the ad buisness model infected everything. no ads and contributions feel good too

Note, this is happening for the same reason Reddit started enshittifying much harder all of a sudden. Discord wants to do an IPO and so they're going to suddenly start squeezing their users to make the numbers look good just in time for that IPO. Their bet is that they have enough momentum that enough people will stick with them long enough for the IPO to succeed, and after that happens, it's someone else's problem.

So anyone who knows some good altenatives that are either FOSS or EU based?

Is there a reason people don't just go back to Vent/TS? Has it really been so long since those were the de facto options that people are in a quandary over what to do when Discord is clearly in the midst of rapid enshittification?

this is not at all what i'm seeing on discord, and I think it's worthy of note that the article's sample is Reddit posts in r/discordapp. Discord users who use Reddit in general have a systemic bias that's close to ours, as opposed to the majority that is young Discord users.

The absolute shitload majority of users will not care about this enough to stop using the product

So far, I have stumbled upon Stoat, a project called Sharkord, the Matrix network and the XMPP network.

Xmpp is both secure and snappy. Stoat doesn't federate but the interface is really Discord-like.

Some kind of XMPP based Stoat would be nice.