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[–] Creegz@lemmy.world 10 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I am getting flashbacks of the mid-2000's IM landscape. Soon we'll be using 10 services bundled into some hackjob app that doesn't support all of the features but keeps the chats in one place.

[–] MIDItheKID@lemmy.world 6 points 50 minutes ago (1 children)

Hey... Trillian was awesome.

[–] Creegz@lemmy.world 2 points 8 minutes ago

Lmao that is the exact program that came to mind.

[–] AgentBoom@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

I'm glad nobody is mentioning WhatsApp as an alternative. They released usernames a few months ago, all messages are end-to-end encrypted, will add voice and video calls to WhatsApp Web, many people and companies have an account there already... It would be an easy migration, but awful for privacy. Thankfully, the most similar suggestions I found were Telegram and Signal.

[–] scala@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

What's app claims E2EE but it's not really they store everything on their servers that any one of their staff can access at any point

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 1 points 1 minute ago

That is false.

[–] pycorax@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

WhatsApp, Telegram and Signal aren't Discord alternatives though? There's no ability to have multi text and persistent voice channels in groups. WhatsApp doesn't even support screensharing.

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 10 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe we can use this as an opportunity to use different tools for different purposes. Text chat is the easy part, evidently. The issues seem to be around voice/video/group chat on one side, and forums/wikis on the other.

What we need to recognize for one thing is how Discord makes it easy to host info repositories, but sucks at making that stuff accessible. We need a decentralized platform that makes it easy for someone to sign up and create their own forums and wikis in a user-friendly point and click manner that Discord does, but makes those same hubs optionally public and viewable for users without having to join anything.

Then for more live-oriented stuff, Matrix is already the most mature, established, closest thing to Discord we have. We just need it to be better at voice, video, screen-sharing, etc. If I understand correctly, that's already being worked on.

Hell, maybe the former could very well be implemented on top of Matrix itself even.

[–] Batman@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

I absolutely love matrixs UI, but I wish they would make the device verification configurable. aware it's a million times easier to say then implement though.

[–] amateurcrastinator@lemmy.world 57 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

We need to bring back the forum platforms. That is how communities looked and it was great

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 25 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

It was so great, people ditched it immediately the second any alternative arrived.

[–] XeroxCool@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

They slowly ditched better services for convenience. The account/login struggle is the barrier to entry that myspace/facebook/discord "solved". A unique login for each forum, a different set of rules between each, some auto-deletion of supposedly inactive accounts, no photo hosting capability until death bed, yet another set of credentials for the latest photo host, and so on. Nothing was immediate because it took time to build the replacement communities and libraries. The problem is, it took years to realize how inaccessible the information became.

[–] carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works 7 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Discord is just objectively terrible for knowledge. It's not search indexable or archivable. It's more or less a memory hole.

[–] Creegz@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

Discord is a communications platform with tacked on features that resemble forums mostly as a means of organization. It's not a KB or repository under any circumstances outside of misuse, so why would it have to be good at being searched/indexed?

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I hope you're not implying an old forum search was any good

Most decent forums were publicly readable online and thus got indexed by actually decent search engines unlike discord. Hence "search indexable"

I'm not sure why people think that discord search is some kind of gotcha. Its shit.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 13 points 14 hours ago

I mean the masses are pretty fucking stupid and I don't think following them is a good strategy for life.

Also, reddit was and somehow still is pretty popular and stack exchange is being killed by AI not discord, so that's not really accurate anyways.

[–] amateurcrastinator@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

maybe you are right. i think people just forgot about it because of all the noise and because all these new platforms force bad habits. just imagine if those platforms didn't exist where would openai and anthropic be without all that stackexchange/stackoverflow data scraping.

[–] baatliwala@lemmy.world 29 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

Discord became big because of the seamless audio / video / screen sharing. Forums are not even in the same stratosphere.

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[–] BodyPower@lemmy.world 8 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Can Stoat be used as an alternative?

[–] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

As an EU co, how will they navigate age verification

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 15 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

EU doesn't require age verification (yet). It's exclusively British thing for now, and we fight hard to keep it this way

[–] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Oh, good, ty. I just made an account last night and will check it out to see if it fits my needs, but this was nagging in the back of my head as others have just decided to bend the knee regardless of jurisdiction.

[–] sakuraba@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 hours ago

just decided to bend the knee regardless of jurisdiction.

yeah, I understand why companies do this tho

from their side it is cheaper to just put the same measures and requirements for every legislation and in discord's case this is the perfect opportunity to get more data from their users

[–] betahack@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (3 children)

what are the best alternatives for non-tech folks to join and use?... because that's who I am going to have to convince

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