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[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 hour ago

Good. The Mastercard and Visa tax never made any sense. We deserve better.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 minutes ago

come on canada start taking notes

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 5 points 49 minutes ago

Love that for EU

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 31 points 2 hours ago
[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 16 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

reminds me when Brazil launched their Pix payment system nationwide, which is free for individuals, and the US launched an investigation into unfair trading

potential unfair advantaging of Brazilian payment services over US competitors was cited

Brazilian President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva has accused US president Donald Trump of being "bothered by Pix" because it "will put an end to credit cards"

lol get rekt

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 3 points 30 minutes ago

Against what? Against consumers that don't need to pay fees? Against the Brazilian government who is behind the pix?

Poor US companies with billionaires yatches bills to be paid.

[–] LedgeDrop@lemmy.zip 3 points 40 minutes ago

From what I've read, it appears that it's simply one time, transactions.

Surely, they couldn't be that short sighted. This means no "saving for payment information" on your favorite online store.

Also, it seems this is heavily tied to your bank account, which kind of makes me a bit nervous. I like fintech solutions and being able to create "one time use debit cards" or debit cards with a maximum balance and at the moment, I don't understand how wero will fill this gap.

... but I really hope I'm wrong or some fintech will "step up" and make wero a legitimate replacement for visa/master card.

[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 112 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (8 children)

I wonder how many trillions of dollars the Trump dumpster fire will end up costing American business.

You'd think our corporate overlords would remove him.

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 25 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Let's say the pre-Trump economy is worth $100 trillion, and a particular billionaire's share is $2 billion. Let's say Trump catastrophically decreases the economy's value to $50 trillion, while increasing corruption such that that Trump is getting more power, and the billionaire's share is $10 billion.

This is followed by a collapsing market that creates a dip in share prices or private valuation, the assets of which can be bought for pennies on the dollar, eventually leading to that billionaire having $30 billion in a total economy worth $20 trillion.

Win/win for Trump and the billionaire, at the cost of everyone else.

That's basically what's happening, and will continue to happen.

[–] standarduser@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 14 minutes ago

American big business? Not a dime. It’ll be a bailout on the American tax dollar I bet. 

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 1 hour ago

They'll make sure it hurts us, long before it ever touches them.

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 32 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if they're working on it. He's destroying their bottom lines.

That said, if you go after the king, you'd best not miss.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 12 points 2 hours ago

Their bottom lines aren't very important to their goal of owning everything. Money is just a vehicle for power, but once they own everything and everyone they won't need it.

[–] h54@programming.dev 14 points 3 hours ago

The parasites are still making money. Rocking the boat would temporarily interrupt the party, they'll continue to party until they're forced to change.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 9 points 2 hours ago

The question is incomplete. They will cost trillions, but the presidency, the party fixing elections right now, will cost the country the dollar itself. They will max out borrowing, then print money to pay off the debt and de facto default. They will turn all of those dollars into very much less valuable things.

Presuming no one stops them.

[–] CobblerScholar@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

True risk is also anathema to them, probably hedging bets on how the midterms go before they make big moves

I think it's simpler than that and just is down to the impact on the next quarter's profits.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

It's kind of a weird game theory thing, because the industries affected aren't consistently losing. A decision he makes on Wednesday can help the finance industry but hurt the tech industry, and then he can reverse it on Thursday and now the finance industry is tanking but the insurance industry is up. It's tough to know who would work together to pull him out of office, because between any two given days, the people who have the money have different opinions on how he's doing.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 83 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

Good. Make it hurt.

I want to see CEOs from the sky.

[–] WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world 29 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

They would be tiny from way up there

[–] db2@lemmy.world 14 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I like the way you think, get them to terminal velocity.

[–] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

The most important thing about terminal velocity is the immediate stop and its effects.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

And the popcorn stand for spectators. Very important.

[–] Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I dont

Theyre usually fat old men

[–] db2@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Better splats. 🤷

[–] SalamenceFury@piefed.social 9 points 2 hours ago

Good. I don't want those two fucking corporate assholes telling anyone where they should spend their money on and banning or restricting accounts of any NSFW artist out there while their owners are all over the Epstein files.

[–] dan@upvote.au 21 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

We've had this in Australia since the 90s at least. All debit cards are dual network: They support both Visa/Mastercard, as well as the local network (called EFTPOS). EFTPOS is noticeably cheaper to process - around 0.3% fee, compared to ~1% for Visa/Mastercard debit in Australia, ~1.5% for credit, and ~3% for Visa/Mastercard in the USA. The profits stay in Australia rather than going to a US company.

That's only for debit cards, though. EFTPOS doesn't support credit cards.

[–] aegg@europe.pub 3 points 1 hour ago

Same in Norway and I think same in many countries, biggest issue is across borders inside of Europe. Most payments online also.

[–] felsiq@piefed.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

Same in Canada with Interac. I’d love to see some interop between these types of networks

[–] JovialSodium@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

For those who were a little concerned about the "breakup" phrasing in the title, I didn't see any indication in the article indicating those payment methods would stop being accepted. Just moving away from being reliant on them.

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 2 points 1 hour ago

Thanks for this. I recall the days of having to take cash to a sketchy guy or getting screwed at the airport so you can get out of the airport. It wasn't cool, and being able to pay with a credit card in some far-flung places now is pretty amazing.

[–] iamthetot@piefed.ca 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 hours ago

We already have Interac, a good homegrown solution. I'm sure it wouldn't be that hard for banks to piggyback on it to make credit transactions rather than debit.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 10 points 3 hours ago

Good. I hate Visa and MC

[–] SAF77@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

About fucking time.

[–] Vitaly@feddit.uk 0 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Can't we just all use cryptocurrency?

[–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 minutes ago* (last edited 9 minutes ago)

Crypto doesn't have the same consumer protections as centralized cards, though. You can't dispute a fraudulent transaction with crypto, as every transaction, much like cash, is permenant and irreversable. That and crypto also has a negative connotation with scams, as it is very commonly used to scam people.

The technology and the idea of a decentralized currency is cool, and with cryptos like Monero, can even mean private transfers of money across the internet, but it also has its flaws.

I do think blockchain technology has its uses, though, for example, with government elections, although in that case, individual clients can be compromised, and there is a high amount of incentive for malicious actors to do so.

And that is ignoring the many issues with proof of work and its power usage.

[–] Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

You think people can trust crypto?

[–] Vitaly@feddit.uk -3 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

You don't need to trust bitcoin because one of the fundamental principles of it is trustlessnes. the only problem I see is constantly changing price of bitcoin

[–] sys110x@aussie.zone 2 points 40 minutes ago

That's part of the trust problem though; when I have a $10 note in my pocket, I trust that it will still be $10 when I go to pay for my coffee later that day.

If I get $10 worth of Bitcoin out of an ATM in the morning, I don't have that same faith in the afternoon. It might be $7, it might be $3, it might be $15,000. That volatility is exactly why I can't trust it as my standard currency.

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 46 minutes ago (1 children)

And the immense resources required as well as the processing time for a transaction.

Now I’m not saying someday a digital currency will work. Just it isn’t Bitcoin, plenty of other more viable coins but most people just gamble now.

[–] E_coli42@lemmy.world 1 points 15 minutes ago

I think Bitcoin was a good proof of concept that this system can work and scale. Ethereum is trying to be the viable option. I personally like Monero. I am sure in a hundred years or so if crypto is still here, it will be more viable and stable.

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Honestly I can hardly wait to hear my management tell me how much money they've lost on their investments. I'm ready for this place to fall and will welcome the "end" when it finally goes.

When it does, I hope Canada invades (joke, but no really please DO do that)