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[–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I really don't understand any of this "age verification" bullshit or how it holds up under even a tiny amount of scrutiny. You have to be of age to sign up for a cell-phone contract or get internet installed at your house. Every internet access account is paid for by someone "old enough".

It's like if they wanted to check IDs at the drive through before you are able to order a fucking mcdouble in order to "protect kids" from eating trash... Someone old enough to drive is already involved for the kid to order the fucking burger.

These chucklefucks in office all over the world using their inability to raise their own kids without shoving a fucking ipad in their face now using that as a way to surveil and control the entire population is a really sad slap in the face...

[–] paul@lemmy.org 3 points 8 hours ago

Because the end goal is a technocratic feudalism where the tech bros control various fiefdoms. Zuck is in with Peter Thiel who owns Palantir, an AI driven mass surveillance system that aims to de-anonymise the digital world so they can tie every byte of online activity to the person that created it.

Cambridge Analytica worked with Thiel and Musk to target right wingers with propaganda to get Trump elected and get Brexit to happen in the UK which, according to the Trump files; was a plan of Thiel and Epstein's with the goal of creating an economic crisis which they could use to consolidate their power and wealth in more places.

None of this is just the whims of weirdos, it's an actual agenda of the parasite class to take away freedom from the non-Billionaires.

[–] dandylion@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 day ago

if people in power want to save children they could try and stop raping them. with all the surveillance in the world they wouldnt have prevented the epstein rapes because its never about the childrens safety its about power.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

every post mentioning chucklefuck and "child safety" needs to come with that pic of him dining with epstein attached

[–] dandylion@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago

they do NOT care about children at all

[–] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 22 points 1 day ago

Saving the children vs creating a dystopia where your phone tells you what to do, what to think,…

Now add a few years, were running out of food and water, the planet is on fire. Guess who’s getting acces? Only people with a phone that says they’ve been good obedient peons who have no opinions of their own.

Take a wild guess which is of more importance to the big club? They’ve already proven they’re PERFECTLY ok working with pedofiles. Hell, a lot of them ARE the pedofiles.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It was never about "child safety". It always was about making users more transparent, and therefore more intimidatable and controllable.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 8 points 1 day ago

Of course. Whenever you hear that it's to "protect the children," you know we're about to get screwed.

[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 104 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Don't forget home routers have something called parental controls.

This would put all the power of online safety back into a parents hands and maintain all privacy online for the general public and ones children as well.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 68 points 2 days ago

What are you talking about? You think this is some kind of game where we all have to be responsible for ourselves, and create solutions that serve everybody? Get real!

This is Earth! Where the elite make all the rules, and those rules aren't based on logic, or problem solving. They're based on what will make the elite the most money!

So you bet your ass when Mark Facebook Zuckerberg pitches an idea, he's doing so to steal your data, and figure out how to create a problem that needs fixing, which can just so happen be fixed with privacy invasion! Yaaaay! Isn't capitolism grand?

[–] SpacetimeMachine@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I also wish I could just tell my ISP " I don't have kids and have never once had anyone younger than 18 even connect to my wifi" and then they could just mark it to bypass these age checks.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 2 days ago

Phones, tablets & computers have it too.

[–] crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 day ago

The market has made clear how it feels about consumer freedom. Every consumer option is lost revenue to them.

[–] etchinghillside@reddthat.com 6 points 2 days ago

And to ensure that everyone has a router… everyone will be given a state issued router with personal identification that they must use.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 54 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

No thanks, I'm good.

He's already made his money. He needs to just retire and quit fucking things up for everyone.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 34 points 1 day ago (4 children)

This, really, is what gets me about billionaires. Literally any of them could have just faded into obscurity years ago, lived a life of abject luxury and never had a single worry. Or, they could have spent like 10% of their wealth on improving things for society as a whole, and everyone would have loved them for it. But no - they all had to just focus on hoarding more and more and making things worse and worse for everyone else. It's fucking baffling to me.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 25 points 1 day ago

It shouldn't be baffling, it's obvious what the problem is. These people have crippling OCD, which manifests itself as financial hoarding. These people have more money than they or their descendants could ever spend, and yet they are compelled to make more and more, and even pay to reconfigure the government so they can make even more.

If these people were hoarding cats, or rusty cars, or old appliances, or newspapers, etc. to the point where it is negatively impacting all those who live around them, then the authorities would step in, clean it up, and get help for that person.

But not financial hoarders. They are lauded as successful business people, and they get full cooperation from the government in service to their OCD. Their crimes are overlooked, and are sometimes even turned into laws. They are encouraged to DEMAND more money from the government for no reason at all, and it is almost always granted.

Donald Trump has it worst of all, and we allowed him to become president, even though his obvious and mind-boggling mental illness is on full display at all times.

These people are severely mentally ill, and our government encourages their mental illness. The way to handle someone like that is to STOP their behavior, not coddle it, especially when it is actively doing so much damage.

[–] ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Capitalism is a mental illness. What do you expect?

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 hours ago

Capitalism is a highly efficient system for resource optimization, except that the side effects are environmental destruction and steering disproporitionate rewards to socipaths.

[–] freebee@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

They want ever more power and control. Money is just a tool to get that. Most billionaires are sociopaths.

[–] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We only ever hear about billionaires who go about to fuck everybody's life. Just tell me a few of those people you are talking about

That's entirely their point.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

This is the bizarre thing. Google's founders got out of the game back in like 2010. Why the hell is he still trying to run the show? Step out of the way and let some new creativity get involved.

[–] Zier@fedia.io 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's because snowflakes like zuck want to know who is calling him a cunt and when. Shove it up your ass you sick stalker.

[–] dandylion@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

its a miracle how insecure rich people are you'd think they can live a life where they have their shit together and dont care what anyone thinks

[–] Kekzkrieger@feddit.org 19 points 1 day ago

Ah so Bots and Ai shit needs to identify itself as well? Of course not, it's just an excuse (save the children) to do more surveillence rather than helping anyone.

[–] Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Well, yeah. That was the plan from the start. Let's not be the "dumb fucks" who just "trust him" with personal data this time.

[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Imagine this happening and Facebook will somehow still be an AI sloptrough.

[–] Samsy@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Maybe we split the internet. Privacy concerned people could use something like gemini

[–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’m not sure that what this article is claiming follows. Your device providing a token which confirms you’re an adult doesn’t imply that your real name will be provided to anybody, any more than, say, my banking app using my phone’s FaceID implies that that app has access to my biometric data

To me, age verification on-device make the most sense precisely because it allows for it to be secure and maintaining of privacy

The alternative is providing every site with your biometric data, photos of your documents like driving license, or both. Or that there’s some random third party which you give that data to and who then stores it on some server somewhere the security of which we can only guess at

I know sind will be tempted to say that it shouldn’t be happening at all and that it’s not about protecting kids and so on. But no matter how much we say that it _ is_ happening. This is what the new reality will be. The only question is where you want the scan of your face to be stored. Personally, I’d rather it be encrypted on my device

[–] ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The alternative is people actually fucking parenting and not making the internet a dystopian hellscape.

[–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Again, we can hope for whatever. But this is going to happen. So the question becomes what the best version is. I see no better option than on-device, encrypted age verification tokens

There's no way on-device options would work with FOSS operating systems, so if it does happen I'm SOL anyways, so wtf do I care? I'm not going back to corpo slop. If the people work together we can defeat shit like this before it happens, so why the defeatism?