I love when people down vote stuff like this because you never know if they are disgruntled ultras or disgruntled liberals.
this post was submitted on 09 Mar 2026
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Or just post-post-truth & anti-bullshit. Why should people believe the fakery, we can move on from control methods and not be cattle anymore
How do you stop reactionary forces from just enslaving you again? You need a socialist state
Of course, a socialist world. Not reactionary states claiming to be
But that's not what we are discussing here, we are discussing socialist states where public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy and the working classes control the state.
Ah so there was this meme that I commented on outside that discussion
I'm aware and am referring to the meme as well, as we all are in this discussion.
The meme parrots the kayfabe with controlled opposition and division created by the global authoritarian parasite class. They'll all have to go
What is the "global authoritarian parasite class?" Classes are specific relations to production and distribution. Are you referring to the top of the capitalist class, the imperialists in the US and Europe? I'm not sure how that relates to the meme. This meme is specifically about how liberals use terms like "authoritarian" to discredit existing socialist states, without an analysis of what that authority is used for and how it's different from capitalist states.
You assume that there are existing socialist states. Every state is controlled right now. We've learned it time and time again, only this time there seems to be a momentum in people not accepting it anymore.
There are existing socialist states, where public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy and the working classes are in control of the state: the PRC, Cuba, DPRK, Vietnam, Laos, and Venezuela. We've indeed learned time and time again that socialism can and does exist.
It can exist, when the world doesn't have the pedophile overlords anymore manipulating population like cattle
The PRC, Cuba, DPRK, Vietnam, Laos, and Venezuela are already socialist and are not controlled by an international pedophile cabal.
That's sweet. It's just a coincidence that their population is in the exact same situation, still being extracted of their time and energy?
Can you elaborate? No, their populations are absolutely not in the same situation. Their social surplus is dedicated to fulfilling the needs of their people, not extraordinary profits for the few.
Most of their time is still gone to wage slavery even with softer handcuffs (on some areas, and then harder on others). The control is the same.
What no theory does to a mf 😭
In a socialist world you don't need a state. It withers away and we all become communists or anarchists or whatever. In our world however, any socialist movement will immediately come under attack from reactionary forces from outside. A state is needed to suppress those reactionary forces.
Yeah, they're suppressing every socialist attempt currently, but the facade is crumbling
Where is the facade crumbling? I need some examples because honestly I have no idea what your are talking about.
Someone joked in a comment about politics, that's one way to evaluate, with the Epstein files, Iran and the apocalypse plans being quite clear reveals
they are controlling us by telling us socialism is not that bad!
this will have dire consequences!!