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The Apple MacBook Neo's $599 starting price is a "shock" to the Windows PC industry, according to an Asus executive.

Hsu said he believes all the PC players—including Microsoft, Intel, and AMD—take the MacBook Neo threat seriously. "In fact, in the entire PC ecosystem, there have been a lot of discussions about how to compete with this product," he added, given that rumors about the MacBook Neo have been making the rounds for at least a year.

Despite the competitive threat, Hsu argued that the MacBook Neo could have limited appeal. He pointed to the laptop's 8GB of "unified memory," or what amounts to its RAM, and how customers can't upgrade it.

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[–] BigTrout75@lemmy.world 108 points 14 hours ago (9 children)

I can't speak for Macs. But in the Linux world, 8GB is fine. In Windows it's awful because of all that bloat. I'm guessing Macs fair better for OS efficiency.

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 93 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Macs don't have copilot so that's like 4GB saved right there

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[–] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 51 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

8GB of ram on Macs is fine for work and medium photo/video editing, as long as you have plenty of SSD space and don’t use Apple Intelligence.

People forget that MacOS is UNIX at its core.

[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 23 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

I'm running Mint on an 8BG laptop and I'm surprised by just how much can be running at one time. Right now I'm running Firefox with 10 open tabs, Waterfox with 8 tabs, Thunderbird, Keepass, Calibre, Signal, a Whatsapp client, Syncthing, Libreoffice Writer with 2 open docs & Calc with 2 open small spreadsheets, a couple of terminals and Gedit, and didn't even notice it until came across these comments. A friend who uses Windows 11 says 32GB is recommended now.

Microsoft must be thrilled with age verification being required at the OS level. What a great way to lock people into their Microslop garbage.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 19 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

Right now I’m running Firefox with 10 open tabs,

Oh......I guess I'm the only one who opens firefox, and literally thousands of tabs.

One day I closed one window and it said "Are you sure you want to close 158 tabs?"

I said yes. It was one window. I had 23 more windows.

[–] NekoKoneko@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago

Literally thousands? Have you tried bookmarking things after they've sat unused for awhile?

I typically just periodically save my browser windows with a tab manager extension. I just say because thousands sounds like way too much to keep track of...

[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 8 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

When I get to 20 or so I have to start closing some tabs to keep track of things. How do you find the tab you're looking for when you have that many open?

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[–] Faceman2K23@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 10 hours ago

on my work PC at the moment (lovely little AMD 5700u mini-pc with 16Gb ram) I have a debloated LTSC build on W11 and two profiles of firefox running with a total of 25 tabs, a couple of them are more complex web apps but most are static pages, plus a couple of file browser, an old dumb custom invoicing app we use (~2003 application so its very light) and a VNC viewer with another machine running.

7.9gb of ram use.

it's not that bad really, I mean it's a lot for just mostly websites but we know they arent as light as they used to be, 8gb would be too little since I need some dedicated for Vram as I run 3 displays but I certainly dont need much more than 16.

I did have 32gb in this machine at first since I was doing some light photoshop and basic CAD/CAM, but it very rarely exceeded 16gb, so I cut it back and it's been absolutely fine.

If you give windows more ram, it will use more ram as a baseline of course, unused ram is wasted ram.

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[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 10 points 11 hours ago (7 children)

Many entry level MacBooks of the last decade have probably been 8 GB. I have a M1 MacBook Air and that is 8 GB. It is fine for me.

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[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 5 points 10 hours ago (13 children)

in the Linux world, 8GB is fine

Yeahhhhh no

[–] Nindelofocho@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

My old laptop is running Pop!OS on 8gigs really well. I mostly do document editing, vector graphics, and a little light gaming. Have not updated to COSMIC yet so will see how that goes. I definitely dont load it up like my beefy desktop though.

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[–] BladeFederation@piefed.social 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I use mainly Linux but Mac is more efficient with RAM than Linux is also. By a significant amount.

[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago (5 children)

What?

I use OSX for work and Linux on my personal laptop, that hasn't been my experience at all

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[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 37 points 14 hours ago (24 children)

He pointed to the laptop’s 8GB of “unified memory,” or what amounts to its RAM, and how customers can’t upgrade it.

Given the price of RAM, you'd need to sell a kidney to upgrade it in a Windows laptop these days, so that's not much of a difference, although 8MB is a little skimpy, I'll give him that one.

[–] thatonecoder@lemmy.ca 11 points 10 hours ago

[…] although 8MB is a little skimpy

Have we already downgraded to this???

/s, and sorry for being pedantic

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[–] Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works 29 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Lemmings that focus on the RAM spec are telling on themselves. 256gb storage is the real travesty here.

[–] Tanoh@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

It is not a lot, but it is not that hard to extend storage. For example with an external SSD/HDD or a NAS.

[–] Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (3 children)

Even if tethering any portable device to an external drive wasn’t wildly inconvenient, you would be giving up your only usb port on this thing

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[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 14 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

If you like to actually do your computing locally, it sucks. If you're using it for web browsing, the specs are great.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I do all my computing locally.

I doubt I have a system using more than 256GB on a system disk. There's 14 running in the house.

[–] pseudonaut@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

You are a unicorn man doing everything locally is so uncommon these days it’s a small percentage.

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[–] phar@lemmy.world 11 points 11 hours ago

This is attractive to me simply because finding a quality 13" laptop is very difficult. 15.6" is huge.

[–] GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml 18 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

For Windows if 8 gb of RAM is not enough that’s an own-goal. Because it is. Or it should be. Windows 11 is not so dramatically better than Windows Vista SP3 to require a 10x better computer to use comfortably. Actually, in many ways Windows 11 is a massive downgrade from what came before it.

I’m glad the MacBook neo is only 8gb. That means they have to support it as a usable low-end target. That means we aren’t jumping the gun on saying “actually you need 12 gigs of RAM” as if that should be normal for a usable computer.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

XP used to just have ram sitting there empty waiting for something. Then over vista and 8 and 10 they started more and more preloading because hey if the ram is empty it’s wasted. Like database servers, they always suck down all the RAM possible. Problem is windows doesn’t release it when the cache or whatever isn’t useful and something else wants it.

It’s been a while but I think macOS is considerably better at both parts of that equation.

There’s no reason that computers need to be so powerful other than MBAs saying “optimization is too expensive, just push the feature.”

[–] Faceman2K23@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

MacOS is significantly better than windows when using their first party apps, but many third party apps are ram hogs and things get forced to swap more often.

Swap isn't terrible though, a lot of current gen mac hardware has very fast SSDs and very low latency controllers so it's pretty transparent in normal use.

I think if you are on a website like this, this computer isn’t for you, but it is for a lot of people who use nothing but a web browser with one tab open 90% of the time.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 9 hours ago

Swap isn't terrible though, a lot of current gen mac hardware has very fast SSDs and very low latency controllers so it's pretty transparent in normal use.

They do typically have good hardware that works well together. It’s a ton of work replicating that level of hardware compatibility. Apple catches a lot of negative feedback and some of it deserved but they won’t be caught dead shipping a wifi chip as shitty as the one in my Surface.

I think if you are on a website like this, this computer isn’t for you

Probably. I’m in the minority on an iPhone.

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[–] espentan@lemmy.world 23 points 14 hours ago

"We can't believe Apple aren't fucking consumers harder! Apple?! have been fucking everyone so hard, for so long and people have just been bending over and taking it, and so we're very shocked to see them decide not to go maximum fuck-you with this product"

[–] kowcop@aussie.zone 9 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

I feel the specs are fine for the use case that the device is aimed at (media consumption, some office usage).. you know, the things that a huge chunk of the population use a device for.. if that doesn’t suit, there are more powerful options.

I don’t think it is productive arguing that an ultra cheap/low end device isn’t powerful enough, or specced high enough for activities/use cases that it wasn’t designed for.

[–] Faceman2K23@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 11 hours ago

the newer A series chips have 12GB of ram, so that bodes well for the next generation of the neo.

8gb is plenty for your average non-technical user, and macos is pretty good at memory and process management and swap as long as you are using mostly first party apps, which the average non-tech savvy user will, likely just the default browser and maybe the built in office suite.. that’s pretty much it.

its really a case of If you ask whether 8gb is enough.. you probably arent the target for this machine.

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