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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 17 hours ago

Mozilla is still being paid by Google so they can continue to exist and make sure Google won't be sued for monopoly behaviors, is it not?

If so, is it fair to assume that Google is just paying them to piss off the user base so that everyone will use chrome anyways?

If not, them why the fuck has Mozilla been doing everything to be hostile to it's users, for years now?

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 21 hours ago

Yesterday I was nicely prompted to accept their ToS to continue using their service.
No mention if it was FF Relay, Mozilla acc or just Firefox.
Because I didnt want to blindly accept anything I went into the about:config page and disabled the banner.

Honestly: Fuck that.

[–] mikedd@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

This is getting so sad and pathetic that it's getting really funny 😅

[–] pirate2377@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

Mozilla try not to anger their user base with their new features challenge (impossible)

[–] versionc@lemmy.world 46 points 2 days ago (15 children)

I used to enjoy AI a lot, and I still think the technology is really cool, but lately I'm beginning to despise it. It spreads and nestles itself into every corner of our life, and it rots whatever it touches, be it the humans that rely on it or the projects in which it's used. I see so many open source projects that are tainted with it, it's almost impossible to avoid it. It's sad. The generations that will grow up with AI will be fucked.

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[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 63 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] markz@suppo.fi 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Companies at every layer are competing, from the OS, to the browser, to the website so you can experience triple the spam.

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[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Seeing AI invade open source is sad. AI slop contributions. AI integration that no one asked for.

For now Firefox derivatives are fine (I use LibreWolf), but many of those derivatives don't work on macOS because it "fails to verify that this executable is actually executable" (what does that actually mean?????????).

I had hopes for Ladybird Browser but now it's being vibe coded (rewritten in rust by ai for no reason whatsoever), and it's not ready yet anyway. Now I'm hopeful for Servo engine. It's in development but at some point it will be ready, and it bans slop contributions.

[–] suckdings@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 days ago

For now Firefox derivatives are fine (I use LibreWolf), but many of those derivatives don't work on macOS because it "fails to verify that this executable is actually executable" (what does that actually mean?????????)

Not sure if this is what you're experiencing, but it's a common thing. Happens to me too, I have to run a command after I update from Homebrew.

LibreWolf FAQ: why is LibreWolf marked as broken?

It is possible that Apple Silicon users see their recently downloaded LibreWolf flagged as broken or unsafe by the OS.

This happens because we do not notarize the macOS version of the browser: we don't have a paid Apple Developer license and we don't want to support this signing mechanism that is put behind a paywall without providing significant gains.

You can remove the quarantine attribute from the Application using this command:

xattr -dr com.apple.quarantine /Applications/LibreWolf.app
[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 240 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The speed at which firefox has been enshittified is as impressive as it is sad.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 70 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

...and we'll all suffer as climate change increases. None of this shit is worth frying for.

[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Dont worry the US and Israel are starting WW3 as we speak we will all be dead before then any way

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[–] arcine@jlai.lu 52 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Do yourself a favour and use LibreWolf or WaterFox instead.

[–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 days ago

Or just keep using Firefox and don't use the entirely optional and opt-in features you don't need. The same as always.

I'm completely flabbergasted why people get their panties in a twist over

  • completely local features that happen to be backed by machine learning models (the translation feature is a huge privacy win over sending your text to Google translate)
  • opt-in LLM integration that nobody forces you to use
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[–] XLE@piefed.social 146 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Relevant section:

Smart Window uses ‘memories’, things Mozilla says “…it learns from your activity” to inform its responses.

You can delete memories individually, and you can set any given chat session to not use/store them.

Fine so far.

The problem? My memory list isn’t populated with things Smart Window learned since I enabled it. Oh no.

It has activity going back months. We’re talking searches and website interactions from long before I enabled this. features.

Firefox just handed that history to the AI models to plough from, without telling me upfront.

I found this the creepiest aspect of Smart Window.

Mozilla says this was a flub; it will refine the onboarding around Smart Window to limit memory formation to post-opt-in activity only. That’s obviously the right fix.

Because sharing a user’s prior browsing history with third-party AI models, silently, on feature activation, without any headset? Yeah, a bit icky – but that’s the price of testing features that are finished, I guess.

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 63 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm willing to give them a pass since this was a development build and while someone probably should've thought of it, it's the kind of bug that can happen. If this was the public release it would be a lot more outrageous.

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[–] tackleberry@thelemmy.club 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You should see how AI is being deployed in warfare. Plausible deniability is about to go through the roof.

Back in the day, you get out jail free card was on a scale of "the devil made me do it" to "I was following orders", now we get "It was AI"

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago

You should see how AI is being deployed in warfare. Plausible deniability is about to go through the roof.

https://www.newsweek.com/ai-chooses-nuclear-option-in-95-of-war-simulations-11589197

[–] TDCN@feddit.dk 101 points 3 days ago (4 children)

F*** I really dont want to change away from Firefox. Pleas be good Firefox. Please! Don't F this up.

[–] redlemace@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

waterfox a better balance between firefox & LibreWolf

[–] Godort@lemmy.ca 118 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Librewolf is exactly the same browser with all the security features dialed to 11 and all the AI removed.

[–] Steve@communick.news 94 points 3 days ago (17 children)

And it breaks sooo many sites.
Waterfox, is Firefox that just works.

[–] eleijeep@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And it breaks sooo many sites.

No it doesn't. I use Librewolf and this common refrain is FUD.

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I've been using Librewolf for about a month now, today I ran into the first problem, a website was blank but that fixed itself when I closed the tab and opened it again. I've been very happy with it so far. Sad to hear you ran into troubles.

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 37 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I tried Librewolf for a while and found it to be a bit too much for me when all I really want is Firefox without AI. The privacy options are probably great but not for me.

Just installed waterfox. First impression is that I am super happy to be bock to the previous Firefox theme - it takes less space and looks nicer in my opinion. Seems promising. Thanks for the recommendation! :)

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[–] DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 47 points 3 days ago (38 children)

So sad for Firefox. I try to keep using since it’s the only solution free of Chromium, but I guess chromium will control everything only Safari will not be chromium.

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[–] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

OpenCode with Playwright gives you full control over what model you use, the prompts, and what it integrates with, and it promotes open weight models. The way Firefox implements this seems gimmicky, and I don't like that it persistently collects your info while browsing. Also fuck OpenAI.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (10 children)

Much like Adobe‘s Acrobat which I also have to use for work. At least from what I can tell when it suddenly summarizes a PDF. There‘s no way in hell that happens locally. But the fact that it seemingly automatically processes potentially sensitive data from customers didn‘t even do as little as raising eyebrows when I brought it up.

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