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[โ€“] Kazel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 days ago

๐Ÿคข ๐Ÿคฎ

[โ€“] mintiefresh@piefed.social 13 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Waterfox. Librewolf. Zen. Floorp.

They're all good options in their own ways. Just pick one and go

[โ€“] callyral@pawb.social 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Have you seen the better browsing experience? It's on Zen. It's literally on Librewolf. It's on Floorp without ads. It's literally on Waterfox. You can probably find it on Ironfox. Dude it's on Ladybird. It's a Servo original. It's on GNOME Web. You can browse on GNOME Web. You can go to GNOME Web and browse it. Epiphany has it for you.

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[โ€“] solrize@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 days ago

They can't help themselves.

[โ€“] FaceDeer@fedia.io 13 points 3 days ago (5 children)

There's a master "kill switch" for all AI features in Firefox now. I suggest everyone who's concerned about this kind of thing just go and turn it off, and then we need never bother each other over this again.

[โ€“] LostWanderer@fedia.io 24 points 3 days ago (4 children)

It's still opt out, not opt in because on first install that LLM garbage is enabled by default. The kill switch should've been for people that chose to try LLM garbage and found it lacking; needing an easy way to disable it all.

I won't stop complaining until Firefox makes their LLM nonsense opt-in, letting a user choose at first boot if they want that shit or not. That would be the most ethical and user respecting way to handle their LLM shit.

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[โ€“] XLE@piefed.social 22 points 3 days ago

"When it comes to privacy, defaults matter."

- Mozilla

Why not remove the AI and offer them as a separate extension? That way you're happy, and everybody else doesn't have crap shoved down their throats.

[โ€“] chickenf622@sh.itjust.works 22 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Or pick a Firefox fork that doesn't have the AI bullshit. Libre Wolf is great for people who take security very seriously,l. I hear Water Fox is a much closer equivalent to Firefox without AI, and also has a focus on privacy. I've also been using Iron Fox on my android with basically no issues.

With Mozilla's current track record I don't trust them to not fuck with the AI "killswitch".

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[โ€“] albbi@piefed.ca 11 points 3 days ago

My master AI killswitch was just to switch to Waterfox.

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[โ€“] mimavox@piefed.social 13 points 3 days ago

One would think they'd be extra careful not to piss the users off at this point... but no.

[โ€“] maplesaga@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I use Duck.AI a lot, and it says its privacy oriented and doesnt save your queries. Is Firefox doing anything similar, or is it all monetized data?

[โ€“] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

The geo-exfiltration of personal information needs to be in great big banner lights; and not just because you're outside America, or China, or wherever the bot happens to be where Firefox is exfitrating your history as queries.

Exfil is bad; geo-exfiltration is next-level bad.

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