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[–] andallthat@lemmy.world 102 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Amateurs. On my personal pc, windows RAM usage is exactly 0.

[–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 81 points 16 hours ago (5 children)

Windows 11 is not based on a single unified UI framework. Instead, it uses a mix of legacy Win32 components, UWP elements, modern WinUI layers, and web-based technologies like WebView2 and React.

I am reading this as MMC snap-ins and control panel. There is no other alternative to manage these settings outside of PowerShell.

Also, what idiot decided that only one settings window is allowed open at one time? Sometimes I would like to be in Windows update, power settings, Ethernet settings, and printer settings all at once.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 40 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (8 children)

I hate how the settings app is taking over control panel entries to make them worse and show me the original control panel window after going down 3 levels because the stupid fucks can't design UI for shit.

Thankfully, you can still get to a lot of them if you know the name of the control panel applet.

[–] Haquer@lemmy.today 21 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Fighting with their shitty "new" UI trying to find the old Sound UI to fix an issue that their new UI doesn't even have a toggle for really chapped my ass.

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[–] zurohki@aussie.zone 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Apparently there's a ton of CBT involved in doing anything in the new Settings app, so it makes sense to only bring over the things you absolutely have to and then send people to the old control panel for the rest.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 8 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Computer based training? Cognitive behavior therapy? Cock and ball torture?

[–] zurohki@aussie.zone 7 points 11 hours ago

That last one.

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[–] fallaciousBasis@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Like windows 2000 to XP or Vista to 7... 10 to 11

The eternal enshitification...

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

Vista to 7

enshitification

Lol, lmao even

7 was better than vista in just about every way.

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[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 46 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

In an OS literally named "Windows " lol

[–] fartsparkles@lemmy.world 9 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 14 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

They decided it because there are so many duplicate Settings pages controlling the same thing.

There are over 12 different places to change USB power save settings

[–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 1 points 8 hours ago

Insert XKCD one more standard.

I'm all for revamping controls, but don't make crappier less effective ones.

[–] fallaciousBasis@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Easily propagated with windows messaging apis.

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 2 points 11 hours ago

That requires work for every single page.

They clearly would rather not

[–] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 21 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Also, what idiot decided that only one settings window is allowed open at one time?

Microsoft engineers were worried that people missed the joys of MS-DOS and having only one application running at once. Next up, will be the return of base memory versus expanded memory versus extended memory. This ends when they devolve Windows to prove Bill Gates right that 640kB should be enough memory for anyone.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 7 points 14 hours ago

I've got my autoexec.bat and config.sys ready to go.

what idiot decided that only one settings window is allowed open at one time?

Microsoft's army of macbook-using UI "designers" who have to justify their salary so they make up shit nobody wants

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 23 points 14 hours ago

There's some very aggressive autocorrect programs that seem to be bloating all their current software. They should start with taking those out.

Obvious course of events considering how the commodity PC market is essentially cut off from RAM supply for an indeterminate number of years with no respite in sight. Memory isn't cheap anymore, and if they kept making Windows 11 as they used to it won't be long before PCs in the market are simply left unable to run the OS at all.

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I forsee in the future Microsoft implementing a core electron service, one electron instance that is persistant and just runs, but sandboxes every app that calls it. so instead of an electron instance per app, its just an electron instance that has sandboxed pages that are only managable by the parent process.

it would still be pretty bloaty but, since core structure should only be present in the parent process, hopefully it would be less bloaty

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[–] bacon_pdp@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

They already know that the solution exists in their Windows for Legacy PCs but they don’t care about it and will waste their time and money going in a loop.

That is why they needed outside help to get Windows for Legacy PCs to hit their memory target

Windows for Legacy PCs

Low-margin product with no feasible return over the costs it takes to build and maintain. Windows 11 meanwhile is the main advertising and cross-selling platform for Microsoft's high-margin cloud and AI products. Little wonder they prefer one over the other.

[–] Saitama@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

They have no choice but to do so in order to increase the user number of Windows 11. Since RAM prices are high, users will only be able to afford low-spec RAM once support for Windows 10 ends. Otherwise, they would not upgrade to Windows 11, but would instead switch to Linux or Mac, or stick with Windows 10.

[–] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 8 points 13 hours ago

they would not upgrade to Windows 11, but would instead switch to Linux or Mac

Absolute win.

[–] bacon_pdp@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

It worked well with just 64MB of RAM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Fundamentals_for_Legacy_PCs

So they easily can get the memory footprint down to the floor

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 6 points 15 hours ago

A thin client? Sure, you can get it down that far if you don't want to run anything but the remote desktop software.

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