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I'm in the US, no degree, and absolutely sick to death of working in retail.

I've tried all the jobs website. They haven't even gotten me an interview. The only job search method that's ever given me results is to think of businesses near me and apply to them directly. But that only leaves me working more retail, since public facing businesses are all I'm interacting with.

I just want a job that pays my bills, and lets me work on a consistent schedule. I'm so sick of having my hours constantly whipped back and forth. I just want to go to bed at the same time every day.

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[–] pwnicholson@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

What are your interests and skills? Like someone else said, who you know matters more than anything else, but depending on what your interests and skills are, you can go out of your way to connect with people in that space.

And get used to finding ways of talking about yourself as a good fit for that kind of job. Brag on yourself.

Also, volunteering is a great way to build up a resume of skills in areas where you have no prior experience. There are jobs at food banks, homeless shelters, etc., but there are also often places like art museums and zoos that need volunteers. Basically, any non-profit you can think of probably runs largely on volunteers. Sometimes it's in a warehouse or doing trash cleanup, but often they're in office tasks like filing, misc office work, answering customer service emails, etc., that would be a great stepping stone to getting paid to do those things somewhere.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago

It has been stated a few times already but the correct answer is "know people". This applies to all workers, regardless of education. You need to expand and strengthen your personal network. This is the best way to exercise some control over your situation, otherwise you are at the whim of luck.

[–] JayleneSlide@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The fundamentals are always going to be the same:

  • Develop marketable skills
  • Build out your professional network
  • Develop ace communication skills, written and verbal; this pays dividends everywhere in life
  • Strive to be either in the top ~15%* of what you do or bring a diverse set of skills to the table so that you can perform multiple roles; however, the latter tends to be an entirely different kind of job
  • Be punctual
  • Always continue with your professional development
  • Be the kind of person with whom you would like to work

*This is not as hard as it sounds. Consider Sturgeon's Law ("90% of everything is shit") and how much people phone it in; it's pretty easy to stand out in most fields.

More specifically, I suggest "durable" career fields such as the trades (plumber, electrician, lineperson, crane operator, cement truck operator, etc). I mentor and tutor some high school and college students. There's a lot of career uncertainty for the the foreseeable future, and the trades are not going anywhere. I generally suggest "do what pays the most and chaps your ass the least;" this is just a guideline and the kind of thing you need to figure out what your inflection point is. Whatever the fuck you do, avoid debt like it's the plague.

Unless you land a proper apprenticeship, expect some serious long days for a few years, e.g. working full time and schooling/studying full time. Maybe you'll get away with a less arduous journey, but if you're mentally prepared to go full-tilt then you'll be pleasantly surprised if the journey is easier.

Empathy by way of anecdote: I was a DJ and nightclub manager. I was surprised when I hit 25 and was somehow still alive. I decided to take this life stuff seriously and saw that there was most likely no path towards serious financial security. I went back to college for audio engineering, working full time and going to school full time. I did audio engineering for about five years. While audio engineering was cool, I thought it would be even cooler to write the software tools for audio. So I poured myself into independent study, using my nights and weekends to learn programming. And once I was comfortable with programming, I went back to college again for software engineering, again full time school + work. The journey was hard, but I was a senior software engineer within 8 years, manager and principal roles another 4 years after that. However, I never got a job writing audio software; it's been all medical and financial software. "How do you make the gods laugh? Make plans." So have a vision, but be flexible and open to opportunities.

Honestly, if I could have another go at it, I would have chosen marine electrician. Travel, boats + ships, technical + creative field, and get to pick and choose jobs I want to do.

Woo warning ahead: there are qualitative aspects to the journey. Know what you want, rather than what you are avoiding. If you don't know where you want to go, you are going to end up somewhere else. But something cool happens when you know what you want, know it in your bones, and commit to taking the steps. The universe delivers. Maybe not the exact thing you wanted, but some form of it.

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Gig work. Customer service (in office), trade skills; electrician, etc. Job fairs are employers looking to hire.

Networking is key. Ask the people you know how they got their jobs. Shit, ask them if theyr hiring. That's all networking is at a basic level.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 2 points 3 days ago

I was going ot suggest something but it won't necessarily have a consistent schedule. Anyway if you can take a community college course and are ok with blood you can take one phlebotomy class and then be able to work as a phlebotomist. Its something I can't do as I get wierd with blood and needles. Because of people like myself it limits those who do it. Both by removing them as possible people doing it and by being people who people who have to do it have to deal with.

[–] homes@piefed.world 2 points 3 days ago

How do you feel about gig work?

[–] Justifier@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I can't really speak for today, because I know things are way different than they were before when I got out of retail

But I can tell you what worked for me and maybe you can apply something from it to your own situation

Save up enough money and buy your own tools, for me that was a $200 in 2013 computer. Sounds cheap today but it was a very tough purchase to make at the time without help and with bills to pay. Learn something that can be applied elsewhere using 'free' resources (r/piracy, FMHY, and your local Library would be the equivalent today). For me that was learning to use Linux, CAD and other modeling software in ways traditionally educated people at the time did not leverage them, and that edge got my foot in the door

Oh, and before you get your hopes up on the regular sleep schedule bit, I spent the past +decade swapping between nights and days every single week after getting out of retail. Now there's also a baby in the picture and we won't afford child care so sleep is a pipe dream. Maybe 2-4 hours a day if I'm lucky. Been that way for over a year now

Retrospectively my schedule then of 4-10:30 on week days so I could go to school and 5am-2pm weekends to get enough hours to pay the bills was amazing. Pay sucked though. So did them playing with my hours to keep me part time without full time benefits.

[–] bacon_pdp@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Well, you can either start a small business or find a small business that does something and is willing to train you. As degrees have become worthless in comparison to other people recommending you for the position.

[–] Beth@piefed.social 1 points 3 days ago

Construction? But I think the hours are long. Maybe some community college apprenticeships programs depending on where you live.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Door to door construction sales. There are lots of companies that do thinks like install new windows or solar panels. They pay people to go around, knock on doors, and see if people are interested in their product. Technically the job title is "lead generator". And these companies are always hiring for these positions, since, to be honest, it is pretty shit work. You walk around all day in the hot sun, knocking on peoples doors and having those doors slammed in your face. Base pay isn't great, and you make your real money in comissions, which are rare, since you are cold calling.

But it is regular hours, exercise and sunshine, practice keeping a positive attitude and meeting people. And as soon as you get hired, you can start applying for other, better jobs in sales.

[–] Suck_on_my_Presence@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Not all of these companies pay hourly. Check the contracts and see if you can ask a worker who actually works there.

My ex got duped into one of these for roof repairs, but it was a commission only job that sounded great on paper but was absolutely awful

[–] Qkall@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

i skimmed the comments so apologize if this was mentioned already... most factories seem to now hire thru temp to hire type situations... that's how i got my career started was an entry temp situation

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 2 points 3 days ago

Job fairs are actually worth going to.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago

Run for congress, be corrupt as hell, and seek a rich doner to support your compaign

/j

[–] GreenTea@lemmy.org 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Take a look at outlier.ai and dip.audio.

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