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[–] farmgineer@nord.pub 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Xennial here. I got rid of most social media years ago (FB, twitter, etc.) and never signed up for a lot of others. I'm replacing my google pixel watch with a pebble. I'm open to ditching my android google phone as well once something works properly with all the Japanese government and banking services. Thinking about how to degoogle.

It wasn't all sunshine and rainbows back in the '80s and '90s, but I definitely feel like we should take back some of our balance, security, and comfort (though streaming and recording video can stay).

[–] PapaSkwat@lemmy.wtf 1 points 5 hours ago

I’m replacing my google pixel watch with a pebble.

And you make way more money than the average US worker.

[–] Hakuso@scribe.disroot.org 47 points 1 day ago (4 children)

There's nothing wrong with the technology, it's who is running it all that needs to be fixed, with the general f*ckery that is through everything now I miss my 2400 baud modem that was bigger than my computer and dialing in to a BBS.

[–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 7 points 17 hours ago

Yup, almost 70 and tech is fine. Just use what you need and ignore social media is what I do. I also of course do Lemmy. I ran a few BBS’s back in the day. Oodles of fun.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

You have my permission to write fuck on the internet. On the fediverse, Zuck is the more offensive four-letter word.

[–] RxBrad@infosec.pub 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] Hakuso@scribe.disroot.org 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I'll take the Zuckwit over Bozos or Ellison.

[–] PapaSkwat@lemmy.wtf 1 points 5 hours ago

Why did you censor 'fuckery' tho?

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Algorithms that are specifically designed to addict you are pretty wrong technology in my eyes. Wouldn’t matter who is running it, that tech is harmful.

[–] Hakuso@scribe.disroot.org 2 points 18 hours ago

They are deployed to addict, there is some benefit to them, Google used one back before they dropped "Don't be evil" to enhance the relevance of search results.

Now they use it to censor, and sell shit, but it was not a bad technology before it was corrupted.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Okay, but booze, nicotine, and crack were also pretty addictive.

Idk if I'd trade The Algorithm epidemic of the 2020s for wood grain alcohol from the 1920s

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Okay, but booze, nicotine, and crack were also pretty addictive.

And heavily controlled, regulated and legislated. Algorithms aren't

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

And heavily controlled, regulated and legislated.

Only took a century or ten

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, those are also harmful technologies that harmed societies more or less depending on the historical and geopolitical context.

Right now, the algorithm is more harmful than those because everyone is addicted to them. The sheer amount of time waste and collective brainpower that is being degraded or never even being developed is staggering and will stunt our society for decades to come.

Even fentanyl, while incurring a much more dramatic and tragic cost on individuals, has a fraction of the impact on society that the algorithm will have due to the scale of our collective addiction.

It’s like how wage theft has a relatively low impact on individuals but combined represents significantly more money stolen than all other crime nationwide.

The effects are spread out over many individual people, but it has an overall dampening effect on the growth and development of communities.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Right now, the algorithm is more harmful than those because everyone is addicted to them.

Again, I don't think you're acknowledging the difference between chemical addiction and social habit.

If you spend a week without cell phone reception, you don't die from withdrawal symptoms.

[–] Hakuso@scribe.disroot.org 1 points 18 hours ago

People have commuted suicide, though.

Just because it's not a physical addiction does not men it can't be as extreme, and generally a physical addiction will end up with nausea, exhaustion, and mood swings rather than death. It takes deep or long-term addiction to be fatal.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

There’s nothing wrong with the technology

Glances at the legacy fossil fuel infrastructure

Idk about that.

the general f*ckery that is through everything now I miss my 2400 baud modem that was bigger than my computer and dialing in to a BBS.

A lot of the historical nostalgia is based on biased accounts of past eras.

"I wish I lived in the 80s" is a thing you say when you're not told about the airborne lead fumes or the acid rain. "I wish I lived in the 50s" is said by people who would feel very differently if they were being drafted to the Korean War.

[–] Hakuso@scribe.disroot.org 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's nice that they fixed the ozone and acid rain, but now they've gone and walked back what stopped it, so we'll see it again soon enough.

At least in the 80s there was potential for improvement, in spite of the problems, rather than an eternal spiral into oblivion.

We also were still able to rely on legal protections rather than having it all privatized and laws bypassed by T&C.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

At least in the 80s there was potential for improvement

We don't talk about the irreconcilable damage inflicted during the earlier industrial era. We don't talk about what modern fossil fuels and plastics replaced.

Nothing about this is eternal. We are no closer to oblivion today than we were during Operation Plumbbob or the Black Plague.

You won't live to see the end. You won't live to see the beginning of the end. You won't even live to see the end of the beginning.

We're all living through a single footstep on an endless road.

[–] Fontasia@feddit.nl 12 points 1 day ago

It was that good in the 90s, enshittification is only more visible now as you have gotten older and better at identifying it.

[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 207 points 2 days ago (26 children)

I really don't think that specific emotion is isolated to gen z.

I remember all the promise and excitement that tech had back in the late 00's and early 10's. Things were unique and fun. That's just not true anymore. Every new software update adds shit that you didn't ask for and don't want (AI, ads, removal of user freedom). New hardware releases are either an underwhelming iteration of specs from the previous version, or an unimaginative device that has the same basic look and feel as every other device it's competing with.

Tech used to be fun and exploratory, now it's just companies pushing to see how much they can be allowed to exploit you for the least cost.

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[–] 800XL@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Bullshit. This sounds like a dumbshit conservative article written in hopes to belittle gen z into boomer thinking.

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[–] M137@lemmy.today 27 points 1 day ago

"to live in the past" is so fucking dumb, it shows that the person who wrote that title and the publisher who approved it thinks depending in AI, not caring about the data collected from you, jumping into whatever new popular thing and never having any critical thoughts about where this is all going is a good thing and the future.
They're actually living in the now and making choices from that and for the future, they understand the objectively bad practices and shitty behaviour of the late stage capitalism we're living in.

[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 108 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Tech in the 1980's - 2010's was hopeful, beneficial, and fairly consumer oriented. Tech today is mostly some sort of scheme for recurring billing while openly assisting the modern surveillance state. It's no wonder modern tech feels icky.

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[–] Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone 91 points 2 days ago (11 children)

Tech used to promise a better life. Now it requires a subscription and wants your biometrics just to lie about pizza toppings to you. Sounds like gen z is on the right path.

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[–] Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world 66 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I'm tired of tech being everywhere from cars to toasters I still prefer analog things that do the job and only that job.

I don't need my internet connected fridg to tell me what groceries to buy while selling my data to insurance companies

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 53 points 2 days ago (7 children)

i don't think it's tech, it's that tech stopped being something that helps you, now it's just things that control you, and it's all so shitty.

being a millennial was nice. almost every new piece of tech was useful and made life easier. but i think it was around 2010ish when it all began going downhill. first, capacitative buttons, then smart everything that didn't help, just monitor you and sell your data. now so much tech is straight up hostile.

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