Any adult should be allowed to do whatever the fuck they want with their own body.
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If I know I'm gonna be dead soon, realistically, who's gonna stop me?
This reminds me of a former, and actually current coworker. After she gave her notice my previous employer before leaving for my current one, she was freaking out about finishing up a win10 hardening project.
I asked her, "why are you so anxious about it? What are they going to do, fire you?"
What's stopping you is unavailability of those drugs.
Well, for once, when my grandparents were terminally ill...they did not seem to be able to meet their dealer ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
i agree! i was terminal, uh, something like twenty years ago we should throw a party. some people get all of the luck. what i mean is, do i still get to cash in?
We are all suffering from a terminal condition, known as life.
So yeah drugs for everyone.
a famous one in france a lady was suffering a very rare cancer, the govt refused to give her life-ending drugs, so she got some from the streets, barbituates or whatever and just OD on it.
"What you gonna do? Put my dead body in jail?"
What a legend. 🫡
Life is a terminal illness and tomorrow is promised to no one.
Based enabler
And new friend for life, even if only for a day!
Hospice has the good shit
People ~~with terminal illnesses/in their last days~~ should be allowed to have any drugs they want.
All Drugs should be Legalized.
For adults
Obvious, isn't it?
It's the Internet. You have to specify any and all caveats.
And turtles
any drugs they want.
How about any drugs they can afford, because that is sort of what we have now (speaking for the US).
How about any drugs they can afford, because that is sort of what we [don't] have now
FTFY
I mean they kinda are. It's called hospice and it's when they break open the good shit.
Unfortunately, a lot of people arent.
Due largely to religious bullshit (at least in america), its very very difficult to get death with dignity. My grandma has parkinsons, she wants to go on hospice before it takes her brain, but her doctor is Catholic and decided its against his religion to let her die as she wants to.
Shes trying to find a doctor who will let her, but its very very difficult. Its still considered murder in most of the country, and even most Hospice doctors wont do anything besides not resuscitate. We have to be careful to not call an ambulance for her, because if she goes to a hospital, the doctor is allowed to just ignore her DNR if thats against their religion.
IDK what kind of hospice you've been to but my grandmother was basically pumped full of morphine for nearly an entire year before she passed of "totally not a morphine overdose."
Are real actual medical doctors even allowed to do that based on religion?
Not just allowed, actively pushed to do so.
The doctor she goes to did it, just decided that it was against his religion for her to decide to go on hospice care.
Even if he would allow it, in order for her to get on hospice, her doctor would have to go in front of an ethics committee and argue for her to be allowed to go on hospice. If anyone on the ethics committee objects, she isn't allowed.
California has a right-to-die law (one of very few states that does). You are allowed to die if your doctor can prove that your disease will kill you in 6 months, that you are coherent (at the time of death, you cant sign anything beforehand for it), if you are capable of taking the suicide pills without assistance.
The doctor has to document that you made two separate distinct verbal requests, 48 hours apart. Has to document that your disease will kill you in 6 months, has to document that you are able to take the pills on your own with no assistance (too weak to die? too bad). The case is automatically reviewed (and they will try to take away the doctors license every time).
And anyone involved is allowed to stop you if they object on any grounds.
Killing yourself is a sin in most versions of Christianity, so its effectively illegal in most of the country, and any doctor that is willing to let you has to really really work to not get their license taken and them thrown in jail.
Are you not thinking of euthanasia? Hospice is like a care home for people who are dying
that is how hospice works. they won't euthanasia they will just let you die and do theoretical pain management. My mom died of dehydration in hospice because it was "unethical" to just give her a shot of barbituates when half her brain was no longer functioning after a stroke.
And often just enough to let someone with a weak constitution drift off gently into that good night when they're ready.
It's one of those unstated aspects of it. It's not "assisted suicide," but they'll hook you up with a PCA pump of morphine alongside scheduled doses of potentially more powerful painkillers that will help you fall asleep and never wake up.
Unless you're in a "right to die" region and have jumped through all the hoops, they can't administer a lethal injection of a substance simply intended to kill. But they can administer enough pain medication to kill a horse. They'll give as much as needed to ensure comfort, which takes priority over organ failure and risk of death, since that is already a bygone conclusion.
Or the nurse/doctor will tell the family exactly how much morphine to "not" give their loved ones because it'll make them go to sleep forever
Ok I have an idea. I'm all for giving people the option of assisted suicide, but it's just way too medical and boring! I want something with pizazz!
I have a better idea. The US government has been dying to get back into nuclear testing. I say, let's kill two birds with one atomic bomb! We designate a site out in the Nevada desert somewhere. Then, once a year, anyone who qualifies for assisted suicide gathers there. You have all the regular safeguards existing assisted suicide processes have. Everyone there first says goodbye to their families. Then they walk through the gate, present their ticket, and take a bus to ground zero.
They arrive at dawn. Through the day they have access to every illegal drug one can imagine. Finally at the end of the day, at sundown, a great countdown is held. As the last light of their last day winks out, a second sunrise blooms across the desert. And everyone present goes out in the most epic way imaginable - high out of their minds and instantly vaporized under the light of a thousand suns.
Forget doing this in a hospital or hospice and being given some nasty poison to drink. I want to go out at ground zero of a nuclear explosion! Just put me close enough to the center so I actually get vaporized, not one of those unlucky ones that just gets their skin burned off and has to die painfully over several hours or days.
We'll call it .. burning... man ?
Cute. But my inner engineer and scientist needs to point out that at these temperatures, "burning" doesn't really apply. At these heat fluxes, you don't so much combust as simply stop being chemistry and start being physics.
That's the appeal of it. It's literally the most painless way possible to go out. Your brain has been turned to plasma before pain signals even have a chance to reach it.
I think you might be overestimating the capacity to enjoy anything at that point
Exactly why drugs should not be illegal at any time during life, instead of just at the end when some figment of our moral imagination would allow it out of pity.
People in this thread are romanticising end of life as frolicking happily at a party one moment and slipping away in a magical slumber the next.
Most likely you’d be in bed either crying fo pain meds or asleep after having been given pain meds.
I too would, from where i am now love the idea of my consciousness slipping away while tripping on dmt but i recognize that once the time comes i may not desire nor care anymore.
My drug of choice would be a massive amount of barbiturates
There are definitely some drugs I’ve tried that I would not want to do while staring death in the face. But I agree it should be a personal choice. Basically I think it should be at any point in life.
Agreed, I can't wait to load up on Adrenochrome when I'm a little older.
Yeah I snuck in Cigarettes to my grandmother in hospice. She wanted them, asked in between gasps for them. So I did. We wheeled her outside and let her smoke.
After that they didn't let her back out until she died. I sort of understand but at the same time, what is she holding out for? Its over. They treat dying adults like children and I think that's wrong.
we're all in our last days pal