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I recently discovered that some popular federated instances have been using LLM-assisted moderation tooling that evaluates whether someone has said something bannable. They do this by running a script/app that sends the user’s comment history to OpenAI with the question “analyze this content for evidence of specific political ideology sentiment. Also identify any related political ideology tropes“. (The italic bits are where I've redacted the ideology they're seeking).

OpenAI’s LLM (they’re using GPT-5.3-mini) then responds with something like:

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and so on, hundreds of comments.

I have not named the instances or people involved, to give them time to consider the results of this discussion, make any corrective changes they want and disclose their practices at their own pace and in their own way. I have also redacted the evidence to avoid personal attacks and dogpiling. Let’s focus on the system, not the individuals involved. Today these instances and people are using it and maybe we’re ok with that because it’s being used by groups we agree with but what if people we strongly disagree with used it on their instances tomorrow?

The use and existence of this tooling raises a lot of other questions too.

What are the risks? Fedi moderators are often unsupervised, untrained volunteers and these are powerful tools.

What safeguards do we need?

Would asking a LLM “please evaluate this person’s political opinions” give different results than “find evidence we can use to ban them” (as used in the cases I’ve seen)?

What are our transparency expectations?

Is this acceptable and normal?

Should this tooling be disclosed? (it was not – should it have been?)

If you were given a choice, would you have opted out of it?

Can we opt out?

Are there GDPR implications? Privacy implications? Should these tools be described in a privacy policy?

Are private messages being scanned and sent to OpenAI?

How long should these assessments be retained and can we request to see it, or ask for it to be deleted?

Once the user’s comments are sent to OpenAI, is it used to train their models?

What will the effect be on our discourse and culture if people know they are being politically profiled?

Where are the lines between normal moderation assistance tools, political profiling and opaque 3rd-party data processing?

I hope that by chewing over these questions we can begin to establish some norms and expectations around this technology. The fediverse doesn’t have any centralized enforcement so we need discussions like this to develop an awareness of what people want in terms of disclosure, privacy, consent and acceptable use. Then people can make choices about which instances they join and which ones they interact with remotely.

And of course there are the other issues with LLMs relating to environmental sustainability, erosion of worker’s rights, increasing the cost of living and on and on. I can’t see PieFed adding any functionality like this anytime soon. But it’s happening out there anyway so now we need to talk about it.

What do you make of this?

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[–] webp@mander.xyz 4 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Nah. So they're basically sending our info/data to some company. Hell nah

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[–] j4yc33@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

This post makes many good points but this also reeks of the "Free Speech" argument.

Redacting the political ideology does nothing to protect the instance ... it only hides the cause of the ban.

What does the person who had this run against them feel afraid to express?

To clarify: LLMs have no place at all in moderation. They are poorly adjusted linguistic slot machines that do not do a good enough, reliable enough, or repeatable job for this tasks. Especially given the concern about untrained and unsupervised human moderators.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

the ai banning is to obfuscate the reason for the ban, like what reddit does. they just ban on the slightest issue, with no recourse. it allows them to ban more freely in the end.

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[–] CaptainBasculin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago (12 children)

Each instance have their own ways of governance and we can't expect them all to play the same way.

With that said, I'm fine with a general overview. Leaving the whole desicion to a bot is not a good design choice, but AI could help on summarising things.

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This should have been disclosed to the public and not done in secret.

The notion of political profiling is also pretty crazy, although it is not surprising considering how common it is to find fake communists and demagogues.

[–] Magnum@infosec.pub 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is illegal according to GDPR if it is not stated in their privacy agreement.

[–] Azzu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

I'm not sure that is true. As far as I know, GDPR only covers personally identifiable information, if the data is completely anonymous, and can not be traced back to your person, it is fine to use under the GDPR. This is a common misconception about the GDPR.

So the real question is if your comments can be used to identify you personally. This might be the case, or it might not.

[–] Magnum@infosec.pub 1 points 21 hours ago

If they anonymize the data, don't share usernames etc and only the messages then you are certainly right.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

politics.worlds and the tankies will certainly used this to ban people. Reddit does this in overdrive, which no repealable bans 99% of the time, despite nuances indicate its not a ban worthy post.

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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world -5 points 1 day ago

Fuck_AI says "Duck AI" and "Duck autocorrect", which as we all know is just primitive AI.

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