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[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Valve certainly isn't perfect, and I used to buy more games on GOG. But then I noticed those games, which initially had Linux support, were no longer getting updated or working properly on distros. Their Linux support just kind of fizzled out.

On the flipside, even in it's early days, Steam/Proton made Linux gaming such a far nicer experience. If Proton were proprietary, I would stay away from Steam still. But what Valve is doing for Linux and free and open-source software is a net good right now, and that is worth supporting.

There are things that suck about Steam, like the drm. Just the other day I had a game running and also tried to run a second game through GameNative only to find Steam only allows me to run one game at a time, dumb. And there will probably be a day when Valve pulls some kind of enshittified bait and switch like Google is doing with Android right now.

And when that day comes it will be necessary to fork and forget them. But until then I'll enjoy the ride.

[–] aphonefriend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Technically they only block the second game launch if both are online. If you switch steam to offline mode, you can launch as many games as you want.

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[–] melfie@lemmy.zip 71 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Gabe doesn’t do a lot of interviews and mostly keeps out of the public eye. Elon Musk also had a lot of fans until he started running his mouth too much and revealing who he really is.

[–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

We already know a bit about Valve's internal culture due to leaks and interviews, and it's dysfunctional but in a completely different way from almost every other company.

Thanks to having a small headcount plus more money than God, Valve has zero (internal) pressure to release, and has embraced a culture of freedom where developers can work on whatever they want. This has led to tons of Valve projects getting 80% finished before being abandoned once they reach the final stages of development and are no longer fun to work on. Every release they've managed since Steam took off has been due to a few major players with the charisma to swing others to join their pet projects and stay for the long haul.

In a rarity for the field, I'm not aware of any toxicity issues in Valve's workplace or a single complaint about Gabe himself. Those who've quit have nearly always said it's because their passion project got canned due to it being so hard to get anything past the finish line. Other than that, employees seem to love working there (the massive paycheck probably helps too).

Gabe seems to be held in high regard, even though the internal structure he's cultivated is such a mess. And I still prefer this clusterfuck of inefficiency to literally any other AAA developer.

[–] turdas@suppo.fi 148 points 5 days ago (23 children)

GabeN is a CEO, rich, probably greedy and has a yacht, but by all accounts he isn't a douchebag.

I don't simp for him, but he is different from most other billionaires in that he got rich doing what he loves and just kept doing it, and has kept his company on course on a mission that is, all things considered, pretty good for everyone involved (insofar a for-profit company is capable of such a thing).

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 46 points 5 days ago (3 children)

He loves his yacht so much that he bought the yacht company.

[–] Omnipitaph@reddthat.com 6 points 3 days ago

Pretty sure its to churn out research vessels for science though.

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[–] pirate2377@lemmy.zip 12 points 3 days ago

Tbf, compared to most modern CEOs, Gabe Newell is a saint. I suppose in a different world where we aren't in the second gilded age, he might be more hated

[–] BladeFederation@piefed.social 66 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (9 children)

He isn't perfect but he represents what could work about capitalism if there were proper safeguards. With him, he's governed by his own choices or morals, so the current system doesn't work because most rich people don't care. Gabe:

Provides a good base product

The product is based on being ran on open hardware that you own.

Uses his own money to advance support for a true open standard (Linux) because Windows is going down the toilet for UX.

Creates his own hardware that works with the product to give a walled garden experience if you want that. Or you can install your own operating system on the hardware, or install his operating system on other hardware, he doesn't care.

Doesn't have anticompetitive practices with people that make a similar product, focusing on being the best product.

Incorporates ease of use for other products into his product (PlayStation controllers, adding non steam games that are able to use most of the same features via Steam including Proton).

Treats employees well.

Is generous with the refund policy.

And guess what? Everyone is happy. He's happy and rich AF, his employees are happy, his customers are happy, his competition is happy because he's not purposefully throttling them (though they probably aren't happy he's eating their lunch because customers don't want them). The system can work for everyone if it is fair. We just need to demand these safeguards because even Gabe could change his mind at any time.

[–] Arrandee@lemmy.world 31 points 4 days ago

100% ^^ this right here.

Valve is one of the very few big companies I am totally fine spending money with. The value proposition is entirely focused on the products and how the customer, me, gets the most from them. No artificial scarcity, no protectionist bullshit, no outrageously exploitative EULA or obvious shafting of vendors. They focused on creating something useful and functional, and they profit from it. Bravo.

And they have been doing this for decades. The first PC I installed Steam on was a Celeron with a Voodoo2 GPU in it.

I have to do business with other companies because they have driven other competitors out of business. I get to do business with Valve.

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[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It shows how low the bar is. We can eat him last.

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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 78 points 4 days ago

He doesn't abuse his power as much as most billionaires, but he certainly does abuse it.

He's not worthy of idolization, no billionaire is. No person is.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Gabe worshipping is cringe. he's a dude. have some self respect.

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[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 52 points 4 days ago (12 children)

Sorry, Gabe isn't great either. He just knows not to constantly fuck over your consumers everyday to make loads of money. He's on the list, lower on it, but still.

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[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 40 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I very clearly remember asking myself“what the hell is Steam and why are they suddenly the authority on game stores?” when I first discovered Steam. Now my wishlist alone has nearly 400 items on it and my library is massive.

The difference with Gabe is that he’s quiet and keeps to himself. He’s not putting on Met gala pageantry bullshit, or trying to sway elections. That doesn’t mean he magically gets a pass, but he’s not actively trying to ruin our lives and the planet like Bezos, Musk, the entire Trump admin, and Thiel are.

[–] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 4 days ago (2 children)

When the revolution comes, we're still redistributing his wealth, but he doesn't need to get the guillotine.

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[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago (17 children)

It's amazing how many people drop the whole "nobody becomes a billionaire by being a good person" rhetoric as soon as you mention their pet wholesome chungus billionaire.

You guys are just as bad as the people that defend musk because "he's real life Tony Stark! He makes rockets and electric cars!!!!"

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[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world 30 points 4 days ago (10 children)

I've literally never seen any of these so-called "simps"

Like, the internet is a big place and I'm sure some of them exist, but you could make that argument about any view at all. I see way more hatred for these alleged simps than the simps themselves.

Steam, and Valve, operate in a capitalist system. They've been successful. They are similar to a handful of other companies, like Costco, that seem to understand that in order for capitalism to be sustainable, corporations need tk govern themselves and show restraint. They need to focus not on merely achieving profit for ownership this quarter, but on establishing long-term and stable business relationships with all of their stakeholders. Customers, emplpyees, suppliers, governments, lenders, the planet itself.

The biggest failure of capitalism is that the system does not incentivize for any of this. Which is why such corporations are so rare.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

he just happens to run a business that is beloved by its customers and that fact is not lost on him

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 23 points 4 days ago (9 children)

The key difference is that Gabe doesn't make it a habit to dick over people. Aside from the MasterVisa problems and the gambling, Steam is pretty awesome.

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Gaben is the only capitalists I simp for. He's what capitalism is supposed to be, not what it actually is.

[–] tanteregenbogen@piefed.eurocomsocial.de 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Why does this dude have to be a billionaire? Like he has some decent views, but being a billionaire generally not ethical unless you are a billionaire in Indonesian Rupiah, because then it would only be tens of thousands of Euros.

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Man simply got rich on the platform he helped created. Hardly recall any instance he asked for more.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

there is no such thing as “simply” when it comes to capitalists.

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[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@anarchist.nexus 31 points 5 days ago (2 children)

No, lol. Down with all CEOs 🏴🚩

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 48 points 5 days ago (2 children)

He might be on the list but he's down near the bottom.

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[–] czl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Down with billionaires. You can be a CEO all you want, just have normal people money.

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[–] Zizzy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Guillotine ALL billionaires

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[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Gabe is living proof that the issue is not the money or drive to make it on its own that is a problem. Its the building ones entire life and reason for being around making as much money as possible no matter what you have to do that is the issue.

In my opinion if someones only qualification for being in charge of a business is having an MBA and having been in management at other places then that are grossly unqualified to be in charge of anything outside of their own finances.

[–] locahosr443@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago

Yeah steam hasn't enshitified. The shit bits (forums) were always shit and the rest has stayed the same.

They made a service that works and makes money and that's enough. Sure it's a shit load of money, but if it was any of the usual public companies it would have been destroyed by annual KPIs by now

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Also, it's possible to not hold an extreme position for or against everything. Pretty easy to see he's better than others and also realize that doesn't make him "good."

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