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[–] GMac@feddit.org 27 points 2 days ago (4 children)

You can still go graphene and isolate play services in a secondary profile.

For a better future: Organisations and services that structure themselves to require third party services need to take contractual responsibility for the actions in their fulfillment supply chain, just as an online retailer takes responsibility for delivery agents. Google play services harvesting needs to be reflected in the privacy policy of every company that doesn't provide alternative access.

Wonder what will happen if we all start making data protection complaints about enforced non contractual third party data harvesting?

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[–] meowmeow@quokk.au 47 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Can we trust that isn’t a campaign to promote Google? What are these websites? Why aren’t they blocking an iPhone? Can any of that be replicated or is this just a Google campaign to create fear and doubt

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 45 points 2 days ago (6 children)

GrapheneOS user here! Not sure about websites but there are certain apps that don't work properly without Google Play Services, but Graphene's app store has a sandboxed version of it, so I just installed that and revoked all it's permissions. Then if an app needs it, I just turn on the relevant permission, do the thing and then turn permissions off again. It's a bit of a pain at first but I'm used to it now.

[–] zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.ml 34 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Note that some apps will say that they won't work without GPS, but actually will if you give it a try.

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 39 points 2 days ago (7 children)
[–] lemmyng@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 2 days ago (2 children)
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[–] Geodes_n_Gems@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Smartphones are such an utter wretch nowadays, & I'm not even sure if there was a time they weren't. I don't get the appeal of a smartphone, they do everything a dumbphone does but worse, more expensive & with an unremovable thick layer of scum, yeah a smartphone has some of the features of a laptop or desktop but who needs that baked into their phone for every moment?

People are trying so hard to fix smartphones (even by giving money to the least privacy respecting companies ever by buying Google phones) when they can get a dumbphone and be rid of those problems in the first place. Well that's my opinion at least, I think it might be a bit extreme.

[–] lemmyng@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

"even by giving money to the least privacy respecting companies ever by buying Google phones"

To be fair, Pixels are available secondhand, often in Mint condition, which is why my last three Pixels and any other phone/tablet I've bought have been through https://swappa.com/.

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[–] ItJustDonn@slrpnk.net 28 points 2 days ago (2 children)

what will this mean for the upcoming motorola phones that can come with gOS installed?

[–] lemmyng@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They're still subject to the same dumbassery Google is trying to pull. Any OS that doesn't conform to Google Play standards is a target.

[–] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Watch Motorola sue Google for this.

[–] entwine@programming.dev 30 points 2 days ago (3 children)

And then Google retaliates by not allowing Motorola to include Google Play on any of their devices. In the end, Motorola just cancels their GrapheneOS partnership.

Monopolies are the number one reason everything sucks, and will continue to suck until we get non-corrupt politicians (which is impossible)

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[–] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 days ago

That's probably a reason they're doing this now. To stifle what might start to be a sizable amount of pushback. Sizable is still single digits but if it hits a whole % instead of >1 then we might start getting somewhere

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

Nice screenshot now what the fuck are you talking about

[–] DukeNukem@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I had one of these CAPTCHAs recently and it still gave me the option to verify by clicking the squares. I wouldn't be surprised if they phased out the 'legacy' verification though.

[–] Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca 27 points 2 days ago

closing the tab works better

[–] kryo@aussie.zone 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Just got Pixel 10a with GrapheneOS, very smooth. Is there a link? What websites are they talking about?

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[–] redparadise@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 2 days ago

Makes GrapheneOS even more essential, get a 2nd hand Pixel if you don't want to directly support Google.

[–] linkerbaan@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago (6 children)

There are rumors Graphene is releasing an official phone

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