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[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

Be grateful for the gig economy, Peasants!

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 51 points 1 day ago (16 children)

I wouldn’t work for Facebook if they tripled my current salary.

I take that back, I have enough leave saved up I could reasonably take a 4 month sabbatical so I would for about 4 months to make a years salary in that short amount of time and then tell Facebook to fuck off.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I wouldn’t work for Facebook if they tripled my current salary.

Okay, tap the breaks. Triple my salary and I'm retiring very comfortably before I hit 50. Would happily take the Zuck Bucks for that kind of cash, especially if I knew I'd be ushered into the Leisure Class ten years earlier.

Also... who else are you working for that's less toxic? Like, Fuck Zuck, but he's hardly an outlayer in the world of narcissist CEOs.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

In all seriousness he absolutely is worse than most. He operates on more impactful sale, a third of the world is his monthly userbase. His whims hurt people.

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[–] manxu@piefed.social 150 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Imagine you are so dumb, you decide to rename your company for its biggest failure, and then you get to fire everybody else because they are redundant. Facebook renaming itself Meta is like Tesla changing its name to Cybertruck Inc.

I can't wait until the AI bubble is over and drags the worst people under.

[–] Flower@sh.itjust.works 32 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Is AI the final bubble they'll inflate? Usually some new tech gets hyped when the old tech fails. See the progression through deep learning, Blockchain, NFT. Or will they do robotics and suddenly it's robots everywhere. Maybe quantum computing.

[–] vathecka@lemmy.radio 1 points 18 hours ago

Ai Is also a highly specialized technology with a limited number of use cases. though you cant brute force improvement through scaling like you can with ai, so it wouldnt be as good of an investment capital black hole

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Quantum computing will only be useful to a handful of people instead of mass consumer use. Quantum computers are mainly for cybersecurity.

[–] Flower@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 days ago

only be useful to a handful of people

So in the end it's even more useful than the metaverse or NFT, and they hyped that shit up like crazy.

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[–] entwine@programming.dev 6 points 1 day ago

Tbf, Tesla probably sold more cyber trucks than Horizons got users.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

i think meta largely survives because they got people addicted to instagram, FB via propaganda, and now whatsapp. if it was just solely FB they have, it wouldve been a different sotry.

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[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 123 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (11 children)

~~Kinda~~ 1000% fuck Meta employees tho fr

Boo fucking hoo, psychos, you know exactly what rideyou signed up for. Kinda like this from Zuck tbh even tho hes a complete ghoul. Meta workers are not on the right side of the billionaire/labor dichotomy

I hope their fucking stocks fail to vest or whatever. Fuckem

[–] SunshineJogger@feddit.org 57 points 2 days ago (3 children)

You do realize that the problem is that people need money? Yea, many would likely have a choice where to work but many might Not have had options.

What is needed is financial basic freedom for everyone. Countries need to sit down and figure out how to make it work because as it stands, jobs have turned into a form of slavery by design.

[–] Zos_Kia@jlai.lu 17 points 2 days ago (15 children)

That's bullshit. Almost all meta hires are poached, and they're not coming for you if you're not in a position to make good money.

The vast majority of these people chose to leave an already cushy job to get in there.

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[–] XLE@piefed.social 30 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Why stop there? Fuck all employees of the owning class. How dare they be employed

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 41 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Meta is a special kind of evil, they're exemplary

[–] danciestlobster@lemmy.zip 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

While I do generally agree, there are a LOT of companies that have their own special kind of evil, and ultimately if people are choosing between being employed and working for one, they will work for one. There simply aren't enough ethical jobs for the number of people who would prefer to work for ethical companies

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 38 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Its not a dichotomy. Its a spectrum. Meta, palantir they are at the bad end.

Nobody working at facebook has any illusions that they work at a company that helps people make connections and express themselves online. They know its a manipulation machine that oversteps its boundaries, constantly, hoovering up their data. They are also well paid, so its not bread line or facebook. Its a choice.

Many are starting to wake up, but the damage is done. So, its also perfectly reasonable for anyone to not feel sorry for them, if their choice to screw over the world ended up being less beneficial to them than they hoped. That doesnt mean they deserve vitriol or they had it coming.

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[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

If you're willing to defend Meta employees on those grounds you've got to be willing to give ICE employees a pass too.

Facebook and the other meta companies have done AT LEAST as much damage to society. MORE when you consider they're ALSO partly responsible for ICE.

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[–] OrganicMustard@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

I saw an interview with some anonymized meta employees and all of them knew they were doing fucked up stuff. Then they said they were doing it for the stocks the company give them after x years worth millions.

So yeah, fuck them.

[–] gurty@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Really depends on if it is c-suite or the cleaners tbh.

I’m not gonna say ‘Fuck wendy the cleaner who desperately took the first job available to support her sick mother’.

Fuck the brass tho, obvs.

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[–] Batmorous@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children)

Can't wait to read a near-future article about all those employees making a new company that is unionized private non-stock and does better than Zuck's Facebook. Making an open-source Facebook alternative so good that they end uo replacing Facebook altogether

Also, some people were open to making an open source business community on this platform to share how to get different businesses up and running, and how to grow/maintain them. Wonder if they would still like to do that

[–] entwine@programming.dev 30 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You must be new around these parts. Facebook (and the rest of big tech) are monopolists. For the past ~26 years, the tech industry has been using illegal anticompetitive tactics to suppress competition and destroy potential competitors. The government has done nothing, because they're stupid and think "big = good".

An example is Instagram. It was a start up that was growing rapidly, and actually became a threat to Facebook. What did Facebook do? They placed a massive bid to buy the company at like 10x their actual market value. It's an offer so huge that every investor in Instagram would support the deal even if the founders were against it.

A sane government would see that as an obvious anticompetitive decision, and block the merger. Facebook should instead use that money to improve their own product and compete fairly. Obviously, that didn't happen, the merger went through, and Facebook is still the owner of Instagram. Users and the tech industry at large are worse off.

Look at TikTok's huge success. If they weren't a Chinese company, they probably would have met a similar fate. Unfortunately for Facebook, they weren't allowed to buy a Chinese company.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

all those employees making a new company that is unionized private non-stock and does better than Zuck’s Facebook

Facebook thrived because it got access to cheap money through Carlyle Investments. They used that cheap money to buy up a bunch of their competitors (most famously, Instagram, but there's 108 different acquisitions in the Wikipedia list alone) and either insource them or close them out.

Very real possibility that a gaggle of Facebook refugees form a new company, get some decent Series A or B financing, start to take off on user numbers, and grow big enough to be worth adding to some bigger firm's M&A list.

But the idea that they're going to capture the 1B+ user Facebook market share? On what hardware? With what IT support? In partnership with which ISPs? Through which advertisement agencies? Come on, dude. Think about how these businesses function in practice. Setting aside how many "Facebook Clone" companies have flopped, there's a value-add to Facebook that comes directly from their deplorable business model. You can't make a "better Facebook" without sacrificing what makes the Facebook revenue play work. That's before asking how you're going to win a headbutt fight with a dinosaur.

[–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It would take a lot to replace Facebook at this point, not only that but they are into much more then just social media. It would be awesome to see something happen, but even Google failed to beat them.

That being said, I can't tell you how many times people started a business network, resource, etc on Reddit over the past 15 years. They don't work, people get bored, people show up for the first few days then forget they exist, etc. It would be awesome to help others get to the point where they could launch and become successful, but it takes time and every on both sides, and most people aren't willing to do the work either way long term.

[–] Saprophyte@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wish I didn't agree with you, however, I have friends who rail against Facebook constantly and still send me Instagram links and use their meta headsets. Facebook is too ingrained into the social media structure to just easily be replaced. There's about as much chance of replacing Facebook as Blue sky was at replacing Twitter. No matter how much people hate the people in charge, they're still going to continue to use their product.

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[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

Cool and they well eat and pay their bills with unicorn farts and rainbows.

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[–] patruelis@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Even if Meta replaced its entire workforce with AI, payroll savings would only be roughly $27 billion, a fraction of the $145 billion infrastructure spend.

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[–] DrSoap@lemmy.world 44 points 2 days ago (1 children)

All these companies bragging about AI is just synonymous with how little they care about people.

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