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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

The not-Republicans seem less hell-bent on destroying everything for some accelerationist ideology. That's about all I see. I think if we can get a progressive, perhaps AOC in office, and it's possible to save us, she'll not hold back, having seen how Trump used the office. That's my only hope of not having a violent revolution someday, but I think there will be many years, probably decades of disasters to live through first.

[–] Brown_dude69@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Going through civil war?? Who will be casualties?? Normal freaking civilians and none

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Maybe if you’re stupid and don’t go directly for the billionaires

[–] Pissed@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

The united states needs a Sun Yat Sen level reformer to come along if they want to get out of this mess.

[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago

Unfortunately no you are not and you and all the rest are completely wrong.

[–] Squidious@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

The Democrats so rarely have full control of the executive and legislative branches, and when they do it is by such slim margins that the most right-leaning Democrat has the whole thing by the balls.

Looks at Obama's Presidency: Democrats had a single vote margin in the House for only 41 days. That single vote was an Independent (Joe Lieberman). We would have had single payer health care if not for him. What we got disappointing but it was a lot better than nothing. Outside of those 41 days everything had to be a compromise with the Republicans.

I think we need to stop the "both sides are the same" stuff until we've actually given the Democrats a big margin in both houses for an extended period so that we give the left leaning members an opportunity to get some things moving.

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[–] thatradomguy@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I think the people in power will make sure they do everything they can to spin the narrative to make sure that we are divided and more so that Trump's supporters continue believing he has their interests in mind.

More ranting...They (the rich and complicit) will always make us (working people) out to be the enemy just as how media has continued to make China and Russia the enemy of the world--when clearly, and how it's been made so evidently clear, the US is just as bad. Committing war crimes in Venezuela? Supporting Isreal-led genocide? Really, it's the people in power at each of these "super powers" that are corrupt and deserve to be removed.

Why the hell did the guy from El Salvador kiss Trump's ass for the mega prison? Obviously corrupt/collusion happening there. They're so stuck up their own ass that they can't see beyond their fantasy. They literally have a god complex and actively believe they can rule the world.

It's these people that should be removed, not us. We did nothing wrong, but they insist that we should be deported? Put in jail? Killed by pawns like I.C.E.? Killed on a boat? Killed by racist shitheads?

All we have to do is march across DC and force them to resign. Why can we waste so much time "going on vacation" and doing other mundane things like joining competitions but we can't all just in one fell swoop march at the capitol? The news and politicians painted a bad picture about it but at least the misguided Trump supporters had the balls to DO something about it. Even though they were doing so in bad faith and on the wrong basis, they WENT there.

Based on Trump's actions in his term and the meek inaction of the supposed only other party (that don't want to support ppl like Mamdani), I have no faith that anything significant will change even if somehow Trump is removed. Everything happening now is because people don't want to make change happen. The corrupt 1% like Trump want to keep us enslaved and to keep inequality alive.

Instead of playing chicken, waiting for some miracle to save us from this occupation of corrupt leaders, we the people should be taking action to remove them. Fuck the constitution and the state. History has shown the only real way to take out dumbasses in power but we're all afraid to do anything about it. Even a soft revolt like leaking company secrets, trade secrets, and anything that would actually cause a stir is asking for too much apparently. Can't even fucking hack the US to get Epstein files? Seriously? FFS

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[–] MrWrinkles@leminal.space 0 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Define painful. There's nothing stopping us from starting co-ops for nearly everything. But the will has to be there. Too many people are happy with what they have. Violence only breeds more violence. Full stop. All it takes is a viral moment.

Co-ops, unions, small businesses are very beneficial many-fold. The disconnect from those benefits happens when a bigbox entity imparts people with sticker shock, or bargains, or lowest price guarantees. It's not just a peoples' will -- it was will\choice becomes hidden or removed when bigbox puts down too many big roots.

I believe painful will be the transition because it will be long-drawn and painfully slow, to bounce back. Reasoning example- "...too many people are happy with what they have".

[–] frisbird@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

There's nothing stopping us from starting co-ops for nearly everything

There sure as hell is. Economics, wealth distribution, regulation, human needs for shelter food and clothing, law enforcement, lobbyists...

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[–] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (11 children)

We have coasted for a long time off the blood and sweat of our ancestors who struggled for the ideals that have made us thrive. But, we have thrived so much that we have become arrogant and cocky and now have forsaken our ideals. We don’t deserve to thrive anymore until we remember those ideals and struggle for them again.

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[–] folaht@lemmy.ml -2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

The US has to go through the process of fascism only to be conquered or overthrown by socialists, something that didn't happen during the Interbellum or world war II.
Last time they went social democratic to preserve capitalism as US socialists were already drawing their pitchforks.
This time around however, the capitalists want to hold onto power even as their capitalist society is on the brink of collapsing. This time, like last time in Nazi Germany, the US merchants refuse to take any concessions during a crisis, so fascism it has already chosen.
This means the US is already going through a painful transition as fascism is known to be a unstable and (self-)destructive form of governance.

But what is fascism? I have my own take on it and on socialism by the way...

Here you see a table I made that lists all the standard socio-economic forms of governance.
All standard have three sets of people called estates.
The First estate sets the rules, second estate sets the direction of society and the third estate keeps the gears of society running.
This differs I think from the usual socialist picture (correct if I'm wrong) where Marx had in mind that all estates would become one.
It also differs I think from what capitalists think of themselves, because merchants are not mentioned anywhere in the constitution, are not in the government or anywhere in the trias politica and yet they get first row seats in inaugerations and VIP invitations during delegations.

To me, fascism is capitalism, but with a ruling class so powerful that the legitimizer (if that's a word, I make up words) class has become insignificant and with the first estate gone, the ruling class reigns with impunity.

It will collapse and when it does, we will enter a world with a majority of socialist states very soon.
If not, the world will go straight to communism.

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