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[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 96 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I feel bad for people working in manufacturing for parts like cases or cooling systems. When nobody builds PCs anymore, nobody buys their products either and they go out of business for good.

This whole AI mess is killing gaming as we know it.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 73 points 15 hours ago

AI is killing people and civilization.

[–] excral@feddit.org 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

My desktop PC is already significantly more powerful than my Steam Deck, yet I game on my Steam Deck significantly more. I don't see any point in upgrading my PC when indy games that run on a potato are more fun than poorly optimized AAA slop that somehow manages the lag the fuck out of the best hardware money can buy.

[–] bmeffer@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Same. Steam deck completely changed the way I game. I have no interest in a gaming desktop anymore. Haven't turned my desktop on in over a year.

[–] Ougie@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

How much is too much for a gaming PC?

Like, at what point do you think that PC gaming as we know it will die?

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[–] rounding_error@lemmy.today 23 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

It's hard to believe that my PC build in 2023 was $1000 and now it is upwards of $2100 (some parts have no price available).

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

40% of PC gamers plan on building an entirely new PC in the next 2 years? That seems like a lot. I thought gamers just upgraded for like 10-15 years.

[–] kahjtheundedicated@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

3-5 was pretty normal for a long time, in general and for myself. But I’m sitting at 7 years now, and idk if I’ll build a new one until there’s some kind of crash in prices. Might upgrade the cpu to a 5700x3d though if AMD does actually make more of those

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Just grab a 5800x3d from Facebook marketplace, no need to buy new anymore.

[–] kahjtheundedicated@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah they all either look like a scam or cost more than they did new…

If they don’t rerelease it, I’ll probably pick up a used 5800x(t). Still a big upgrade from my 1700

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Damn, around my area they're still selling semi cheap. Like $200 cheap.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

I used to upgrade every two years. In the last decade though, it's been 3-4 years, because hardware can keep up with new games and tech as they come.

I am glad I bought two PC's in late 2024, though, before billionaires decided they were going to force people to rent PC's for life. I should be set for a while, maybe even as long as we end up waiting for a crash.

[–] kamen@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

I regret not buying a new CPU+MB+RAM half a year ago. I told myself that what I have is good enough for another year or two. I wanted to sell just so that it doesn't become so devalued that it's not worth it to sell, or so that it doesn't just fail on me like 3-4 year old hardware sometimes does.

I can afford new things, but I don't want to support the market in its current state. Just some months ago a 64 gig DDR5 kit used to cost maybe 200 EUR, and for less than 500 I could even get 96; now both are about triple these numbers respectively, so hard pass on this for now. I'm going to spend on things that are still reasonably priced (e.g. I'm in for a new PSU and case).

[–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 68 points 16 hours ago (27 children)

I'm surprised that so many (40%) have plans to build a new PC in next two years. Especially because we are talking about PC Gamers, who are already PC Gamers. I would assume that most either do not, or upgrade instead build a new PC. From those 40% of 1.5k tomshardware readers who participated in the survey, I wonder in what state their PC are and if they HAVE to build a new PC or they just have a lot of money around and can afford it. Do they sell the old system or parts of it? Unfortunately these are unanswered at the moment.

[–] cRazi_man@europe.pub 44 points 16 hours ago

In online communities at least, people seem to be keen to stay on the cutting edge and always have the best and shiniest. Toms Hardware is going to attract this very audience.

I accept that I'm probably too far the other way on the spectrum of patient gamers......but people don't seem to think of the utility of the item and rather stay obsessed with "10% performance gains". For the vast majority of people, phones, laptops and computers can easily last over 5 years (sometimes 10 years depending on use case).

Although these frequent upgraders do give a good stock of items for people like me to pick up and stay in the sweetspot of positioning behind the frontline of cutting edge products on the secondhand market.

[–] KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca 11 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah I found that strange too most of my gaming PCs have lasted me somewhere between 7 and 10 years. Would seem completely unnecessary for most people

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 6 points 13 hours ago

I just upgrade one or two parts every 2-4 years. seems to have worked fine for over a decade. dreading when I need to do a mobo update which will include ram

[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 23 points 16 hours ago (7 children)

Anecdotally but several of my friends build a new PC and then slide their old one to siblings who game but don't need high end

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 16 points 15 hours ago

It's way easier to get rid of an entire computer second hand than it is bespoke parts that you've replaced, so this is what I do too. I used to be on a 4-year cadence with new PCs, but then I kept getting more and more mileage out of my machines, since graphics don't leap forward so quickly like they used to. My current machine is 5 years old and still runs the latest games on high settings.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 hours ago

Domated mine to the after school "day care".
They helped me so much, I wanted to repay it in some capacity

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[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 hours ago

I replaced my old PC only because I went from an i5 6600 to a ryzen 7800x3d and thus needed to replace the RAM as well.
Combone that with an old 4GB 960 and an older 2TB HDD and wanting another case the math was quite easy.

It's alao a quesrion how you interpret that? At what point is it a new PC vs upgrading? If you have replaced all parts from the original starting build?
Might explain the higher percentage

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[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

I got 64gb of ddr4 when the getting was good. So at most I'll upgrade my processor to the fastest thing my mobo can take. Unfortunately my 3070ti is showing it's age.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 7 hours ago

I still feel like my 2070 is largely overkill. If GPU prices become reasonable I may consider an xx50/60 or equivalent if it's a moderate improvement and lower power consumption.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago

I had plans. Those plans have been taken out back and shot.

[–] missingno@fedia.io 13 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

My rig still runs all of my favorite 2D indie games, so I'm good.

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[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 7 hours ago

Im not even buying parts and components I would really like to get.

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 9 points 13 hours ago

Glad I upgraded mine before all this shit started. Barring disaster it should play games for years. I don't need all the bells and whistles.

[–] 64bithero@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I last built a pc In 2018 I have no plans for at least 2 more years. My I7 9700 and 2080 TI keep trucking …

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Yep, I built my PC in 2018 as well.

Thanks to the incredible life of the AM4 socket, I managed to upgrade CPUs 3 years ago, and upgraded my GPU 2 years ago.

Between AAA gaming becoming garbage, and the AInflation of components and artificial scarcity, I probably wont upgrade/build new again for at least 5-7 years short of catastrophic failure. . . assuming I am even allowed to by that point, with how they are seemingly trying to push consumers out of the market.

I upgraded my PC just in time last year before pricing went bonkers. Stayed on my AM4 board, upgraded to 64GB DDR4, swapped my ageing 2600x to an 5950x with 32 cores, snatched a 5070 to expand my smallish VRam, upgraded storage to a total of 43TB.

I'm still in the market for 4 8-16TB HDDs, since I have a very nice NAS standing in a corner. But I will probably opt for used drives with the current prices.

Next PC upgrade is the first time in a long while I have to actually replace the whole PC, but I'll ride out this Madness first.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

Sure, but I built my previous rig in 2012 and kept it in service up until I put together my latest one just at the end of last year. Even with the best will in the world I had absolutely no intention of building yet another new gaming computer any time in the next two years regardless of geopolitical fuckery.

[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 16 points 16 hours ago (5 children)

Fractal North is still the prettiest PC case I've ever seen. I'm very happy with mine.

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[–] nerv@fedinsfw.app 13 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I really want to see if the requirements for new games will go down or continue rising.

[–] darcmage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Both in the sense that you'll be able to get a decent playable experience on fairly low end hardware and still have the option to turn on all the eye candy if your hardware supports it. A recent example is Pragmata that can be played on the switch but also looks worlds better on high end hardware.

Game devs will have to take optimization and scalability seriously for the next few years if they want to make any money at all.

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[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

am lucky i am mostly playing older games or lighter games, though i do have more heavier games in my Steam library.(but i dont play them)

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