I feel bad for people working in manufacturing for parts like cases or cooling systems. When nobody builds PCs anymore, nobody buys their products either and they go out of business for good.
This whole AI mess is killing gaming as we know it.

Welcome to the largest gaming community on Lemmy! Discussion for all kinds of games. Video games, tabletop games, card games etc.
1. Submissions have to be related to games
Video games, tabletop, or otherwise. Posts not related to games will be deleted.
This community is focused on games, of all kinds. Any news item or discussion should be related to gaming in some way.
2. No bigotry or harassment, be civil
No bigotry, hardline stance. Try not to get too heated when entering into a discussion or debate.
We are here to talk and discuss about one of our passions, not fight or be exposed to hate. Posts or responses that are hateful will be deleted to keep the atmosphere good. If repeatedly violated, not only will the comment be deleted but a ban will be handed out as well. We judge each case individually.
3. No excessive self-promotion
Try to keep it to 10% self-promotion / 90% other stuff in your post history.
This is to prevent people from posting for the sole purpose of promoting their own website or social media account.
4. Stay on-topic; no memes, funny videos, giveaways, reposts, or low-effort posts
This community is mostly for discussion and news. Remember to search for the thing you're submitting before posting to see if it's already been posted.
We want to keep the quality of posts high. Therefore, memes, funny videos, low-effort posts and reposts are not allowed. We prohibit giveaways because we cannot be sure that the person holding the giveaway will actually do what they promise.
5. Mark Spoilers and NSFW
Make sure to mark your stuff or it may be removed.
No one wants to be spoiled. Therefore, always mark spoilers. Similarly mark NSFW, in case anyone is browsing in a public space or at work.
6. No linking to piracy
Don't share it here, there are other places to find it. Discussion of piracy is fine.
We don't want us moderators or the admins of lemmy.world to get in trouble for linking to piracy. Therefore, any link to piracy will be removed. Discussion of it is of course allowed.
PM a mod to add your own
Video games
Generic
Help and suggestions
By platform
By type
By games
Language specific
I feel bad for people working in manufacturing for parts like cases or cooling systems. When nobody builds PCs anymore, nobody buys their products either and they go out of business for good.
This whole AI mess is killing gaming as we know it.
AI is killing people and civilization.
My desktop PC is already significantly more powerful than my Steam Deck, yet I game on my Steam Deck significantly more. I don't see any point in upgrading my PC when indy games that run on a potato are more fun than poorly optimized AAA slop that somehow manages the lag the fuck out of the best hardware money can buy.
Same. Steam deck completely changed the way I game. I have no interest in a gaming desktop anymore. Haven't turned my desktop on in over a year.
How much is too much for a gaming PC?
Like, at what point do you think that PC gaming as we know it will die?
It's hard to believe that my PC build in 2023 was $1000 and now it is upwards of $2100 (some parts have no price available).
40% of PC gamers plan on building an entirely new PC in the next 2 years? That seems like a lot. I thought gamers just upgraded for like 10-15 years.
3-5 was pretty normal for a long time, in general and for myself. But I’m sitting at 7 years now, and idk if I’ll build a new one until there’s some kind of crash in prices. Might upgrade the cpu to a 5700x3d though if AMD does actually make more of those
Just grab a 5800x3d from Facebook marketplace, no need to buy new anymore.
Yeah they all either look like a scam or cost more than they did new…
If they don’t rerelease it, I’ll probably pick up a used 5800x(t). Still a big upgrade from my 1700
Damn, around my area they're still selling semi cheap. Like $200 cheap.
I used to upgrade every two years. In the last decade though, it's been 3-4 years, because hardware can keep up with new games and tech as they come.
I am glad I bought two PC's in late 2024, though, before billionaires decided they were going to force people to rent PC's for life. I should be set for a while, maybe even as long as we end up waiting for a crash.
I regret not buying a new CPU+MB+RAM half a year ago. I told myself that what I have is good enough for another year or two. I wanted to sell just so that it doesn't become so devalued that it's not worth it to sell, or so that it doesn't just fail on me like 3-4 year old hardware sometimes does.
I can afford new things, but I don't want to support the market in its current state. Just some months ago a 64 gig DDR5 kit used to cost maybe 200 EUR, and for less than 500 I could even get 96; now both are about triple these numbers respectively, so hard pass on this for now. I'm going to spend on things that are still reasonably priced (e.g. I'm in for a new PSU and case).
I'm surprised that so many (40%) have plans to build a new PC in next two years. Especially because we are talking about PC Gamers, who are already PC Gamers. I would assume that most either do not, or upgrade instead build a new PC. From those 40% of 1.5k tomshardware readers who participated in the survey, I wonder in what state their PC are and if they HAVE to build a new PC or they just have a lot of money around and can afford it. Do they sell the old system or parts of it? Unfortunately these are unanswered at the moment.
In online communities at least, people seem to be keen to stay on the cutting edge and always have the best and shiniest. Toms Hardware is going to attract this very audience.
I accept that I'm probably too far the other way on the spectrum of patient gamers......but people don't seem to think of the utility of the item and rather stay obsessed with "10% performance gains". For the vast majority of people, phones, laptops and computers can easily last over 5 years (sometimes 10 years depending on use case).
Although these frequent upgraders do give a good stock of items for people like me to pick up and stay in the sweetspot of positioning behind the frontline of cutting edge products on the secondhand market.
Yeah I found that strange too most of my gaming PCs have lasted me somewhere between 7 and 10 years. Would seem completely unnecessary for most people
I just upgrade one or two parts every 2-4 years. seems to have worked fine for over a decade. dreading when I need to do a mobo update which will include ram
Anecdotally but several of my friends build a new PC and then slide their old one to siblings who game but don't need high end
It's way easier to get rid of an entire computer second hand than it is bespoke parts that you've replaced, so this is what I do too. I used to be on a 4-year cadence with new PCs, but then I kept getting more and more mileage out of my machines, since graphics don't leap forward so quickly like they used to. My current machine is 5 years old and still runs the latest games on high settings.
Domated mine to the after school "day care".
They helped me so much, I wanted to repay it in some capacity
I replaced my old PC only because I went from an i5 6600 to a ryzen 7800x3d and thus needed to replace the RAM as well.
Combone that with an old 4GB 960 and an older 2TB HDD and wanting another case the math was quite easy.
It's alao a quesrion how you interpret that? At what point is it a new PC vs upgrading? If you have replaced all parts from the original starting build?
Might explain the higher percentage
I got 64gb of ddr4 when the getting was good. So at most I'll upgrade my processor to the fastest thing my mobo can take. Unfortunately my 3070ti is showing it's age.
I still feel like my 2070 is largely overkill. If GPU prices become reasonable I may consider an xx50/60 or equivalent if it's a moderate improvement and lower power consumption.
I had plans. Those plans have been taken out back and shot.
Im not even buying parts and components I would really like to get.
Glad I upgraded mine before all this shit started. Barring disaster it should play games for years. I don't need all the bells and whistles.
I last built a pc In 2018 I have no plans for at least 2 more years. My I7 9700 and 2080 TI keep trucking …
Yep, I built my PC in 2018 as well.
Thanks to the incredible life of the AM4 socket, I managed to upgrade CPUs 3 years ago, and upgraded my GPU 2 years ago.
Between AAA gaming becoming garbage, and the AInflation of components and artificial scarcity, I probably wont upgrade/build new again for at least 5-7 years short of catastrophic failure. . . assuming I am even allowed to by that point, with how they are seemingly trying to push consumers out of the market.
I upgraded my PC just in time last year before pricing went bonkers. Stayed on my AM4 board, upgraded to 64GB DDR4, swapped my ageing 2600x to an 5950x with 32 cores, snatched a 5070 to expand my smallish VRam, upgraded storage to a total of 43TB.
I'm still in the market for 4 8-16TB HDDs, since I have a very nice NAS standing in a corner. But I will probably opt for used drives with the current prices.
Next PC upgrade is the first time in a long while I have to actually replace the whole PC, but I'll ride out this Madness first.
Sure, but I built my previous rig in 2012 and kept it in service up until I put together my latest one just at the end of last year. Even with the best will in the world I had absolutely no intention of building yet another new gaming computer any time in the next two years regardless of geopolitical fuckery.
Fractal North is still the prettiest PC case I've ever seen. I'm very happy with mine.
I really want to see if the requirements for new games will go down or continue rising.
Both in the sense that you'll be able to get a decent playable experience on fairly low end hardware and still have the option to turn on all the eye candy if your hardware supports it. A recent example is Pragmata that can be played on the switch but also looks worlds better on high end hardware.
Game devs will have to take optimization and scalability seriously for the next few years if they want to make any money at all.
am lucky i am mostly playing older games or lighter games, though i do have more heavier games in my Steam library.(but i dont play them)