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[–] tehn00bi@lemmy.world 3 points 38 minutes ago (1 children)

When is valve removing windows 11?

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 3 points 21 minutes ago* (last edited 20 minutes ago)

Isn't that exactly what SteamOS is doing?

[–] GutterRat42@lemmy.world 4 points 52 minutes ago

That's the horror part. It's part of the immersion.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 8 points 1 hour ago

"Valve removes free game"

What? Why are they removing free games??? Oooooh, they must want you to pick the paid games....

"after players discover it contains malware that steals your data"

Oh. Well that's a very good reason to remove it. Thanks Valve!

[–] HAL_9_TRILLION@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Joke's on them. I just put games in my library and never install them.

[–] LapGoat@pawb.social 3 points 1 hour ago

to be devils advocate, that is pretty scary.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 68 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

the simple solution would be to put every game into a sandbox by default

Those are my favourite type of game.

/s

[–] scholar@lemmy.world 57 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Every program ideally should be in a sandbox and if it wants permission to access something it should have to ask for it.

[–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Kind of like Android or iOS.

Flatpak tries to accomplish this on Desktop, and it works, but isn't as comprehensive as something like Android or iOS.

On the extreme side, there is QubesOS, which runs every app in a dedicated virtual machine, including the networking stack.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 2 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Flatpak also doesn't ask for permissions. If an app requires a new one does it just add it upon update?

I believe so.

[–] hirihit640@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

I think either Bazaar or GNOME software center does tell you if an app asks for more permissions, I forgot which one though

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

GNOME Software. That's not what I'm concerned about though.

[–] elvith@feddit.org 1 points 1 hour ago

IIRC Discover on KDE also tells you on the update list. But only somewhere in the list of updates - theres no explicit dialog warning you of changes/new permissions

[–] justlemmyin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Is that what proton does on Linux?

[–] elvith@feddit.org 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

No, that's just to make Windows programs/games run on Linux. But you can e.g. use the Flatpack version of Steam to Sandbox Steam and its games (https://docs.flatpak.org/en/latest/sandbox-permissions.html)

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 32 minutes ago

thanks, i didn't know that! i'll keep it in mind.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 2 points 2 hours ago

They had to do one thing...

[–] Squatcher@piefed.social 1 points 1 hour ago

But it was a "feature"

[–] DevoidWisdom@sh.itjust.works 64 points 6 hours ago

And compaines wonder why we have trust issues.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 9 points 6 hours ago

Once wasm 64 bit deploys more, we should migrate as much as possible to it.

That at least will make it harder to access random files and keys from disk due to the sandboxing.

Sandbox escapes are still possible, but that’s an additional level of control we can enforce.