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[–] blobjim@hexbear.net 10 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

This is just a proposal by some Flatpak developers. The more important thing is that flatpak will have better cgroups integration which will be cool to see (already in progress I think).

[–] SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml 2 points 12 hours ago

some flatpak developers

Not the protocol nak dick that was kicked out of Wayland

[–] SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml 12 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (3 children)

GNOME is the bane of FOSS. Wasn't flatpak marketed as the universal packaging system?

[–] trompete@hexbear.net 6 points 13 hours ago

Why is that Gnome's fault please explain.

GNOME is the Apple of Linux

[–] Calfpupa@lemmy.ml 8 points 17 hours ago

GNOME only knows three things: have a good idea, fuck it up, and ignore community feedback.

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 13 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

shrug-outta-hecks I dislike Flatpak a lot more than Systemd

Same here. Arch + Nix + AppImages + Homebrew + Distrobox and you pretty much have it.

Host independence left chat

[–] dead@hexbear.net 17 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (3 children)

The article is speculative and not confirmed. It's an opinion piece based a conference talk given by 2 software developers.

In a blog post last year, one of the developers from the conference, Sebastian Wick said that they are planning a way for flatpak to be able to communicate with systemd. In another blogpost, it says that they don't want to make flatpak be dependent on Linux or exclusive to Linux systems. It seems systemd will be optional.

https://blog.sebastianwick.net/posts/flatpak-happenings/

[–] SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml 5 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Main gnome devs on Reddit are essentially saying "it sucks to be you" to systemd less distro users.

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 5 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

2 software developers.

Aka most of the flatpak maintainers.

[–] hello_hello@hexbear.net 5 points 19 hours ago

It will just be another situation like userdb or elogind/eudev where this component has to be implemented in other operating systems to be compatible, a big nothing burger.

[–] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 8 points 17 hours ago

i have found actually working with flatpaks to be very tiresome

[–] kleeon@hexbear.net 6 points 17 hours ago

A match made in hell

[–] RION@hexbear.net 6 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Systemd lets me do my fun podman containers so this is cool by me blob-no-thoughts

[–] Inui@hexbear.net 8 points 16 hours ago

I'm a flatpak advocate and have been wanting better permission capabilities similar to Android, so I don't really care how they do it. I've never been presented with any reason as to why people dislike systemd other than "Linux is about choice", when the choices in my eyes are like having 50 cans of the same soup at the store with slightly different ingredients and half of them are expired.

[–] blobjim@hexbear.net 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Have you tried systemd-nspawn?

[–] RION@hexbear.net 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

No but from like two Google searches it doesn't seem to be particularly suited to my use case. I'm just running a couple services like a music server and not a particularly advanced user

[–] blobjim@hexbear.net 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

It's basically a more systemd-integrated version of docker/podman. I think you could run a container without too much trouble by creating an "OCI bundle" from an existing container image and running that. But you're right it might be slightly more hassle.