I'm a little confused about this thing's use case.
What does it do differently/better than OpenCode ?
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I'm a little confused about this thing's use case.
What does it do differently/better than OpenCode ?
Naming an AI tool after a god of mischief seems like tempting the fates. π
I can respect the self-awareness though.
Looks cool! I really like some aspects of LLMs but cloud hosting always turns me off.
You might want to rethink the name though as Loki already is a well known log server: https://github.com/grafana/loki
Yeah... π I originally named it Loki because, well...if you leave LLMs unsupervised they just create mischief. Any ideas of a good rename? I've gotten this comment before and I just couldn't think of anything good.
Sounds like some shepherd reference could be good, since it's herding the agents.
Maybe Coyote? Coyote is the trickster spirit in a lot of Native American mythologies.
Ooh I like Coyote! That's definitely in the running now. Not to mention that's really a really cool allusion to Native American mythology!
I feel like that well describes a border collie.
Wants to do stuff, but if you donβt attend theyβll find stuff to do.
I like that you are so focused on local models but I can't find any info on setting up local models in the clients setup https://github.com/Dark-Alex-17/loki/wiki/Clients
What am I missing?
Edit: well it seems this post is an entirely fictional origin story. Here is the first time OP posted about his project 6 months ago https://piefed.zip/c/rust/p/663115/loki-an-all-in-one-batteries-included-llm-cli
So actually, this was the original purpose of it. But all the help I tried to get on it didn't really have much interest in doing anything outside of the usual big model providers, so I tried advertising a more general use case to attract more input. I can't deny that agnostic support for even the big providers is helpful when you're trying to stay current with the rapid advances in LLMs.
After that, I kind of gave up on getting feedback on local-first models. So, instead, I just dove in head-first the way I wanted;Trying new things, building new agents to try and rival Claude Code, adding features as I found them useful and necessary to improve that reliability, etc., and iterating. Then, with the most recent release on Friday, I had done so many changes and improvements specifically for local models that I thought I finally had a strong enough tool to maybe pique enough people's interest to get some feedback and input. π
Oh, and the config example shows how to add Ollama models here
Just an fyi, Loki is also an extremely popular logging system by Grafana, might want a rename if you donβt want to deal with people not finding your project due to having a larger project named the same thing
I'm confused. You say in post title you don't want to send code to the cloud but the image you attached shows openai gpt4o. So what's the deal?
It was just the one gif I had available and also the model that worked fast enough to fit into a gif without taking forever between prompts so I could demo Loki well. You make a good point though. It's an old build and is slightly outdated. I'll update that. Thanks for pointing that out.
Does it have built-in protections so it doesn't randomly decide to delete every file it has permissions to?
Yes it does. By default, any of the execute_command or fs_write/fs_patch/etc. tools all have guards around them that prompt for user confirmation before doing things. They can be disabled via the AUTO_APPROVE environment variable if necessary (like they are when using the sisyphus agent). For bash tools, I've included functions that can help do this when you write your own tools. For Python tools, you can use the usual input methods.
As usual, leave it to the random developers on the internet to put more care and thought into something than the multibillion dollar companies.
Very cool idea! Going with the Coyote theme maybe name it Wile E?
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What local model are you using?
I'm using a ton of different ones but the main ones I use daily are
gemma4:26bdeepseek-coderdeepseek-r1:32bdevstral:24bgranite-code:34bopenthinker:latestphi4:latestqwen3:30bmixtral:8x22bI'm also going to use this opportunity to plug an amazing project to help figure out which models will work well on my hardware: https://github.com/AlexsJones/llmfit Is amazing!
Isn't it a huge delay to swap out to a different ~30b model every few minutes depending on the use case?
Unfortunately, yes. It's one reason I'm trying to figure out a good mechanism to maybe do something like multiple ollama hosts. So like: you can specify what model to use specifically in an agent. But if an agent delegates to a sub-agent, it unloads that model and loads the new one. I'm trying to figure out if there's a way to "alternate" between multiple hosts (say, ollama running locally and one running on your server), so that when a switch happens, it does it on the secondary host while also looking ahead to see what needs to be switched, if anything, on the primary host.
It supports multiple Ollama hosts right now as-is so what I've honestly been doing for the time being is specify which model on which host each agent uses so there's only loading of one model at the beginning of a session. Then there's no unloading/loading/etc. The other thing I've been trying is to see how small I can get the models to be without losing performance. While the tricks implemented in Loki help dramatically, I know there's still a lot more I can do to improve it further.
any chance of an lsp server? i know the protocol is clunky as all hell, but local completions in any editor would be big.
I've been thinking about integrating LSP into it but I can't think of a great way to do it. I've been meaning to look at OpenCode and see how they do it. Maybe I'll work that into the next release!
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:
| Fewer Letters | More Letters |
|---|---|
| DNS | Domain Name Service/System |
| IP | Internet Protocol |
| SSL | Secure Sockets Layer, for transparent encryption |
| TLS | Transport Layer Security, supersedes SSL |
3 acronyms in this thread; the most compressed thread commented on today has 16 acronyms.
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