I love all this data being kept by people who won’t go to jail if it leaks. If you want to keep data or are forced to then a lot of important people need skin in the game or it will leak. After all, there are plenty of examples where corporate fines don’t work.
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I’d like to see fines that actually negatively impact bad actors vs the slap on the wrist they are.
The Liberals are determined to turn Canada into a surveillance state and share data with other "eyes" countries including the USA. This government is not looking to protect Canadians. And they haven't taken the objections on board, as evidenced by their statements that they need to "define" encryption, and that "the new amendments will aim to align the bill's encryption provisions with US counterparts." How can you look at all the history of the USA spying on its own citizens and think "Yep, Canada should copy that"? Not a government that's serving Canadians.
Yeah, people really believed in that elbows up bullshit from Mark Carney.
He's selling Canada to U.S. interests wholesale.
People need to take a stand. There should be a nation-wide strike against this government to tell them to correct their path or fuck off.
Confused American here.
Are your liberals the same as our conservatives?
Our Liberals are what we call "neo-liberal". Morally somewhat progressive, but fiscally conservative. They prioritize the economy (read: businesses) over anything else.
They tend to cut funding to social programs through austerity measures, then claim they don't work, only to privatize everything. Then realize privatizing everything made it suck even more because they're raking in all the cash, but not investing in any maintenance, and are begging the government for money for that maintenance. Only to pocket that money as well.
They'll sell our natural resources to the highest bidder, usually foreign interests, who will then sell it back to us with an exaggerated increase.
.......that was a very long yes.
Not quite, they're more like pro-business Democrats. Promise nice things, deliver for big business and weaken labour instead, give you more pride flag zebra crossings as consolation.
That's the ones. The actual progressive/left party are the NDP party up here. Canadian conservatives used to be much closer to the centre, but they fell quick under the onslaught of American propaganda recently. Liberals are the ones who don't care what you do in the bedroom as long as their donors are making money. NDP are the tiny voice of the people who think the Epstein class needs to go, and wearing rainbow socks doesn't make them "One of the good ones."
No, your conservatives are straight Nazis, our liberals are fiscal conservatives. To be fair, both deserve the gallows.
One point of correction:
That isn't how the 5 eyes actually works. It's illegal for most countries to invade the privacy of their own citizens without a warrant since they have the equivalent to the bill of rights or a constitution or something similar.
But... it's not illegal for Canada to spy on the citizens of the other 5 eyes technically speaking (especially if nobody ever finds out...) you just blame discovering stuff on other legitimate surveillance methods, or you "get lucky" one day and catch a person you're interested in by pure happenstance. Wow, would you look at that? They were criminaling while I was watching them.
You ~~scratch my back~~ spy on my citizens I ~~scratch~~ spy on yours?
People need to flood this guy's mail with angry letters. No not emails, they'll block those. This legislation needs to be stopped.
Anyone still have the ability to send faxes? They tend to be effective.
All black sheet of paper, with white space that forms letters that say "Kill Bill C-22 ASSHOLE!!!"
If you can, send a email to voice your opinion regarding bill C-22.
If you oppose this bill you can. Use the follow template as a start.
Email: gary.anand@parl.gc.ca
Subject: Say NO to Bill C-22!
Hello Gary Anandasangaree
I'm writing to ask you to oppose Bill C-22, the Lawful Access Act, and call on the government to withdraw it entirely.
Bill C-22 would require internet providers, messaging platforms, and cloud services to build and maintain surveillance capabilities inside their own systems — capabilities that create serious security risks for every Canadian. We already know what happens when governments mandate these backdoors: state-backed Chinese hackers exploited similar loopholes in the United States in 2024's Salt Typhoon attack, compromising millions of people's private communications.
C-22 doesn't just replicate those vulnerabilities: it greatly expands them. It would compromise a much wider range of digital services. And it does something that compromises everyone's safety and protection privacy both online and in-person further: companies would be forced to store a full year of metadata about every Canadian — records of where we go, who we contact, and when we did it — without us ever having been under investigation. Everything from which family members you talked to, conversations with your therapist, if you talked with your lawyer potentially exposing what you discussed.
The limited safeguards C-22 contains are both overly narrow, and are compromised by a clause that lets future governments reinterpret basic terms like "encryption" and "systemic vulnerability" by future regulations, with no parliamentary debate required. That means the very limited protections in this bill are only as strong as the government decides they are, on any given day.
Bill C-22 cannot pass in its current form. Please join me in calling on the government to withdraw it in full.
Sincerely, Your name here Your address here with postal code
Signing with your name and address is actually important. They don't pay attention to mail without identity info.

All in the name of public safety, eh? Gary Anandasangaree has got to go.
I’m still trying to figure out how ”better define” works. It’s the same encryption used by politicians, bankers, soccer moms and international spies and hitmen. Same metadata.
Part of me suspects that to be exempt, you’ll need to be added to some sort of registry. At which point… we’re no further ahead, and the law STILL won’t provide any protection or deterrent, it’ll only allow for fishing expeditions after the fact.
It's just politalk for "will amend and try to flush again"
Standard procedure would be for the bill to go through several rewrites until the PM decides to do the Cabinet shuffle (the most boring dance in history) and the current Public Safety minister is moved to a different portfolio. Without a champion, the bill will then linger in committee until Parliament is prorogued (or dissolved for an election), which will then kill it. Or at least, that would be the ideal outcome at this point.