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Hello people, my family recently bought a Renault 5 e-tech. The car itself is great, but there are some aspects that creep me out, especially the driver-facing camera. We didn't actually know that such a camera existed before we bought the car, it was only mentioned as the car was given to us.

The cameras official purpose is to see, if you are tired and paying attention to the road, by some "AI magic", I suppose. You can also let it scan your face, so that you automatically get logged into your profile.

I personally think, that that is kinda creepy, especially as there is no visual indication if the camera is currently recording and no official way to disable the camera hardware-wise. When it is being coverd, the car immediately complains about it.

When talking to friends or family about it, I got one of two reactions: equal concern, or "nice feature actually", "what about the camera on your laptop?", "you are way too paranoid", "I have noting to hide; it is only me driving being recorded".

I have also seen such cameras in other cars, BYD for example.

What do you think, is this creepy or am I too paranoid? Does anyone know where the actual data is processed, on device or on some cloud server? Do you have any experience with such cameras? I couldn't really find any information about it on the internet.

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[–] Mearcfara@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 months ago (3 children)
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[–] BrickEater@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (2 children)

And this is why I have 2 cars from the 80's that I refuse to give up. They're nearly 100% mechanical, carburated and with almost no necessary fuzes to run the two.

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[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't know about the laws over there, but in the US you'd legally be able to return the car if this camera is a deal breaker and it was not disclosed before purchase.

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[–] endless_nameless@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago (32 children)

I'm cool with just not driving. Fuck you, car manufacturers. If I can't feasibly live a lifestyle on public transit I'll buy the oldest shittiest shitbox on Earth and drive it until it fucking explodes.

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[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This is one of those great ideas which can easily be implemented offline but they make it require phoning their data collection unit. Fuck everything about that. I would have stopped and said uhhh no. I want my money back.

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[–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 20 points 3 months ago

Your concern is definitely justified. This is creepy as hell.

[–] bridgeburner@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (7 children)

I fckn hate these laws that force so much tech into new cars under the guise of safety. Not only is it a massive breach in privacy (I don't care if the car manufacturers claim they don't use this data for identification, I won't belive them), but it also makes small cars way more expensive, comparatively. Fck this sh*t, cars have been becoming obnoxiously expensive and forced BS tech like that just makes everything worse.

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[–] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 19 points 3 months ago

I believe this is (or will soon be) a regulatory requirement in many countries, for self-driving features in modern cars.

For me I don't do long highway trips often enough to justify having it. I would rather not have inherently invasive blackbox tech as a tradeoff for a feature I will seldom (if ever) use.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

These will be required in all cars sold in the US as soon as next year and close to zero people are talking about.

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[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (9 children)

Loyal Moses has a vid on these cameras re Ford patenting tech that won’t let you start the car if your mood is deemed incompatible with driving.

Whatever the case re drive ability, 100% your insurance company will have this data.

Does the car stop complaining if you cover it or is it a constant ear assault? Can you start the car if it’s covered? Is there a workaround to disable it?

ETA: what’s weird is that your parents aren’t aware that most people cover laptop cameras. I’m parent aged, and I do. Many laptops come equipped with a slider device to cover it.

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[–] quips@slrpnk.net 16 points 2 months ago (3 children)
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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago (5 children)

I will never buy a car made after 2018.

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You might be able to remove the corresponding fuse

[–] Sasquatch@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Unlikely this camera is on a fuse by itself. If this camera is faulted, or can't see a face, it's likely all driver assistance features, like lane centering or adaptive cruise control, would be disabled.

That might be a dealbreaker for some

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[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Black tape ought to solve it, if not a pair of wire cutters.

[–] akilou@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 months ago (6 children)
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[–] Sirius006@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 months ago (15 children)

Side question : is your car connected to the internet ?

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[–] scala@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 months ago

Nope. Take it right back.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It IS a cool feature but the privacy concerns kinda override any positivity I might have toward it. If it was completely offline with available source code, I'd be on board.

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