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    [–] kionay@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    The user interface on the left and the command prompt on the right does kinda highlight a barrier to mass Linux adoption.

    if we want more people on Linux let's normalize not having to use the command line for everything.

    [–] sonofearth@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    That is not the barrier. Most people stick to defaults and don't know how to install an OS. When any person switches, they will try to learn an adapt. If it is a shitty experience, they will switch back to defaults. Updating your system through command line is not a shitty experience.

    [–] kionay@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

    That is not the barrier.

    who said there is only one barrier?

    they will try to learn an[d] adapt

    you will, sure, but no not everyone will. think less on tech savvy people and more on those that know that "the Internet is the big blue e when I turn on the computer (their monitor)"

    those people outnumber us tech savvy individuals at least two-to-one and they deserve an OS that is easier to use then memorizing command line commands

    [–] sonofearth@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

    Only tech savvy people will actually install an OS. Unless you put a β€œInstall OS” button on the keyboard most people will never switch. So they will probably never use Linux because the idea of switching defaults is scary because it is not β€œofficially supported” by the manufacturer. Using the terminal is not a big deal. Most people can learn and adapt very easily, it’s not rocket science. The official defaults mindset is a barrier.

    If we want Linux to grow, we need it to be installed by default on major hardware.

    deserve an OS that is easier to use

    Mint, Zorin, Ubuntu. They exist and have existed for a long time. They simply are not the default OS on any major piece of hardware.

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    [–] regdog@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    The left side says "Updates are happening, whether you want to or not" and the right side says "'Give me some updates, please"

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    [–] fizzbang@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    Every single time I’ve run upgrade on Debian, I’ve bricked my install. I’m sure I’m doing something wrong πŸ˜†

    [–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 5 points 4 days ago (7 children)

    I'm probably a big newb, but on my headless Debian machines, major updates screw me up sometimes too.

    • "Ah! All my updates can't be found on the server? Oh we're done with "Bo-Peep" and moving to "PotatoHead" now? Maybe I should be on the newsletter or something..."
    • Change some sources in that one text file I gotta look up every time...
    • apt update && apt dist-upgrade "Oh, that's a lot of errors..."

    I'm sure it's not that bad and I'm being dramatic but I do kinda appreciate my rolling OpenSUSE Tumbleweed for this reason lol. I feel like newbies would struggle with that major release upgrade process...

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    [–] SirActionSack@aussie.zone 2 points 3 days ago

    This (actually Ubuntu when it was still mostly Debian) is why I am using Tumbleweed now.

    Small upgrades often seems to work more reliably for me.

    [–] epyon22@sh.itjust.works 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

    For those who are confident in their system setup

    sudo apt update && sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade -y && sudo apt autoremove -y
    
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    [–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)
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    [–] mlg@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

    dnf update

    apt has the added irk of being split into update/upgrade plus apt-get for scripts.

    And the default apt search sucks lol

    [–] Switorik@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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    [–] OldSageRick@lemmy.zip 11 points 5 days ago (4 children)

    sudo apt upgrade && sudo apt full-upgrade && sudo apt autopurge

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    [–] holo@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    nixos-rebuild switch

    going to nix from another distro like the leap from going from windows to linux

    [–] DragonOracleIX@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    I'd rather switch back to Windows than try NixOS again. The immutable structure was far too rigid for me.

    [–] iopq@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

    I run an Ubuntu server and I make the history keep a lot of entries so I remember which files I changed

    It shouldn't have to be like this

    [–] Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (3 children)

    On Fedora live update is turned of by default with a warning saying updating without rebooting is not recommended. As a cautious noob, I left it as is. Too cautious?

    [–] swab148@startrek.website 13 points 5 days ago

    Yeah, rebooting just makes sure that everything is using the new updated packages, so if you update then reboot you'll be golden

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    [–] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago

    Then windows says "Undoing Changes" because its shit software doesn't work

    [–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

    choco upgrade all

    Not a built-in, of course, but chocolatey gets you Linux-like package manager behavior on Windows. With it you can run headless software installs and automatically update software. It's great for remote/VM management.

    [–] einlander@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)
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