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IE like Crypto AG:

In 2020, it was revealed that the Swiss company, Crypto AG, which provided secure communications services to ~120 governments throughout the 20th century, was secretly ran by the CIA and West German Intelligence. The CIA and later NSA were able to read encrypted communications for many countries such as Saudi Arabia, Iran, Italy, Indonesia, Iraq, Libya, Jordan and South Korea.

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[–] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago

DNS4EU and WiFi4EU.

[–] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago

The Proton CEO did make suspicious US political statements despite being Swiss. That combined with their misleading marketing on social media.

[–] Bitflip@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago
[–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago

Signal and Tor have both received huge amounts of US government funding, very suspicious.

[–] SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago

If you're online then you're cooked.

[–] SusanoStyle@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

The Crypto AG story shows that the location of a company doesn't matter that much. The US simply made legal what they were already doing behind the scenes. Intelligence services have always been and still are above the law.

[–] edel@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

Absolutely! Location does not guaranteed anything. The only case against US, four eyes... etc is that they have the power to shut it down easily so they can use it as a threat. Switzerland has, for years now, showed the same drive as any other country to do just that.

Now, I have seen very principled individuals in the US, I would say even more than in the Europe! It is not surprise that we see cases like Lavabit where a right owner chooses to close shop rather than compromise its customers. I hope GrapheneOS will do the same.

[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

Signal for one.

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