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[–] PostaL@lemmy.world 33 points 4 days ago
[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 31 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Teslas be like

(elon doesn't believe in lidar)

[–] adarza@piefed.ca 69 points 5 days ago (3 children)

"autopilot" shouldn't even be used on a narrow residential street like that.

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[–] mech@feddit.org 48 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Did the road runner paint a tunnel on it again?

[–] wabafee@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This is a murder idea right here.

[–] wilmo@programming.dev 21 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (14 children)

A YouTube already proved that Teslas autopilot would drive straight through a portrait of a road. Since it only uses cameras without other tech like lidar

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[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 51 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Are people stupid enough to actually trust Tesla's autopilot, or do they do it on purpose to then sue Tesla?

Nevermind, I know the answer...

[–] DisasterTransport@startrek.website 23 points 5 days ago (3 children)

It works well, until it doesn't. That first part lulls people into complacency. I rented a Kia last year that had automatic cruise control and lane keep assist and it kept me on the road far past when I should have pulled over and taken a nap from being sleep deprived after a redeye flight. Dangerous? Yes. Skill issue? Maybe. What I took away from the experience is that it is frighteningly easy to get used to a thing "just working" and forget about its limitations when it is convenient. I also learned that I do not want lane keep assist or automatic cruise control in my personal car.

[–] bebabalula@feddit.dk 21 points 5 days ago (3 children)

This is basically automation bias you’re describing and it’s what scares the hell out of me with these “FSD” teslas on the road.

Even if you were able to keep constantly alert during the 99% of the time where this works (which I think is close to humanly impossible) why would you want a system that doesn’t offload you at all? The only value of this system is if people ignore the limitations and allow themselves to zone out - the rest of us are at risk when it goes wrong!

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[–] mecen@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago

1 second before crash autopilot disconnects, so you are fully responsible...

Not to mention you need to focus on autopilot driving according to tesla, which makes autopilot pointless.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Bet they are lying and just pressed the wrong pedal by themselves. Bet they were on their phone, the cruise control beeped and then they panicked and floored it. Insurance companies probably have to deal with a ton of Tesla owners who are blaming the Autopilot for a mistake the driver made, even when the cruise control wasn't used.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Seems like a pretty risky lie as the car should have logs saying exactly what happened (at least to the level of detail of cruise control + accelerator vs self-driving).

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Until Tesla scrubs that from their log again like they were already caught doing once

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Curious: what was the outcome of them being caught doing that?

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

The jury didn't like it, but it didn't really prove anything that wasn't already known. I'm not really sure why they did what they did in the end? It wasn't disputed that AP was on, and that the guy overrode the saftey systems. The jury found them partially at fault because they allowed the system to operate there and because they claim it didn't work as advertised, and it was a huge jury verdict damages they have to pay.

I have a feeling it's going to get a reduced damages though as it goes through appeals. The dude was looking down for a phone he fumbled with his foot on the accelerator which overrides the safety systems, to the point the car warns you on screen that it will not brake while your foot is on the accelerator. And guess what... the car did not brake! Surprise!

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[–] iocase@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago

Non-Tesla cars have black boxes already and have for years so you yeah you're right

[–] MML@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I feel like your insurance should automatically be higher for being stupid enough to purchase one.

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[–] M33@piefed.world 34 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Later he was fined by the HOA because the garage door being open since 20 minutes

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The sentence structure that people from different non-english-speaking countries use is really interesting.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

After working with so many people from India, I would guess this person was originally from there. "Since 20 minutes" is a fairly common way that they say it.

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[–] Bristlecone@lemmy.world 24 points 5 days ago (4 children)

This is crazy, I was in a parking lot yesterday and saw someone have their Tesla driver right up to them to pick them up in the parking lot with no driver inside. Kind of pissed me off I was so near in the same parking lot that was operating on its own, with my wife and nieces. I know Elon Musk wouldn't give one fuck about me if his dumbass machine ran me or mine right over

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Check the mobile phone records from the idiot driver. He was staring at his iPhone or Galaxy and failed to pay attention to the neo-Nazi shitbox making a directional change. If that's the case, revoke his damn license.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip 23 points 5 days ago

That's bad that the car's software confused a closed garage door for a kid.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

You couldn't pay me to drive a Tesla, and that's doubly true for Tesla on "autopilot".

[–] ThatGuyNamedZeus@feddit.org 29 points 5 days ago

This is why AI shouldn't be making any management decisions

that tech at IBM all those years ago had it right the whole time

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm not a fan of Elon or Tesla, just for the record. So I hate to actually be the one defending them. But I'm guessing on the same exact day about 12 people drove through their garage doors, NOT in Teslas.

[–] Paper_Phrog@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, but there are more than 100x other cars on the road. And this one is automated. And this was a stupid mistake if true.

[–] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I mean, they're probably lying about it being on autopilot, they just pushed the wrong pedal or something. That said, I drive an electric van at work and it wouldn't let me bump into something if I tried.

[–] Paper_Phrog@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Probably, but it might not be and that is the only relevant part. So until we know for sure it's guesswork.

[–] Visstix@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago

Why is this person called a driver?

[–] monotremata@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The reporting states the driving mode in question was Tesla's "autopilot system," instead of the proper Autopilot, which is Tesla's less advanced driving system. Full Self-Driving (Supervised) is Tesla's more capable feature, although its name is a misnomer, since it's not capable of fully driving itself and requires constant supervision.

I feel like this section needs a rewrite. What is the distinction they're drawing between "Tesla's 'autopilot system'" and "Autopilot"?

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

It's hard to describe these modes because Tesla purposefully blurs and obfuscates what they actually can/cannot do (like giving them names that are basically synonyms.) Typical confuseopoly strategy.

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[–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I thought they stopped calling it autopilot due to legal stuff and such, or has that not gone through yet?

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 5 days ago (3 children)

It's "full self driving (supervised)" last I checked.

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[–] DragonAce@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

I saw my first Tesla this week with the "I bought this before Elon went nuts" bumper sticker. I don't give a fuck when you bought that garbage, its a fucking dangerous piece of shit and shouldn't be on the roads with real cars. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for EVs taking over the market, just as long as they aren't teslas.

[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

You don't have to use the self driving features of a Tesla. As long as we're not talking about Cybertrucks, they're still a regular car with mechanically connected steering and brakes.

The back seats not having manual releases and other baffling design decisions might be dangerous for the people inside, but I don't really have a problem being on the road next to them.

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[–] bender223@lemmy.today 6 points 4 days ago

Autopilot*

*not actually autopilot

so fukn misleading. elon should be sued for billions

these fukn technocrats are all shitbags, and deserve to be taxed to hell

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