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this post was submitted on 20 Jun 2026
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Spent the last couple weeks moving my stuff off Chrome. Not convenient but well worth the effort. If you're not on Chrome they're doing us a favor. Sites will be less likely to target ad blockers if the majority of users don't have them installed.
But the majority of users don't have them installed. Plus Google is pushing Manifest v3 with intent. They aren't content with most. They want everyone to stop using them.
What will all the chrome users do?
This will hopefully move more people to use Firefox again.
Maybe 0,00001% of the user base will. People don’t care, us nerds need to come to term with this
The other thing people on Lemmy / Hackernews/ Reddit don't seem to get is that people are not using laptop or desktop computers anymore. More and more people only have a phone and maybe a tablet. People with phones and tablets do not know what a browser is. It's baked into the system. Everyone on Android is using Chrome and they very likely don't even know it.
It only will make people not to use slow and ad allowed browser
It hasn't stopped them in the past when it broke it on YT.
So use Firefox! On Android its ad blockers work well too
And safari on all platforms (all 2) supports ad blocking. Not my first choice on Mac (or even my 3rd really) but it’s basically my only choice on iOS
The fact there's extentions on FF & it's forks for mobile makes me sooo blown away anyone ever choses anything else!
"But my cousin told me the fox fire is used by hackers or something, and the Google one said it was faster."
I shit you not, I used to work for a company (with no IT dept btw) that refused to use Firefox because they said it was "a trojan virus."
What I think happened is one of their dipshit employees downloaded something they shouldn't have and got a virus and the bosses blamed the browser.
Our IT exclusively allows us to use Edge. So yay.
Agree - I just don’t understand why you’d use anything else on a PC.
There are mobile clients of Firefox and related forks, FYI, not just on PC. Firefox and Fennec are probably the most popular on Android.
100% It's just somehow way more blatant for me with mobile as it's BEEN like this... which propbably helped make Google more confident in doing the same thing with PCs 🤯
well except in the worst OS ever, iOS, where you can only use the worst web standards compliant webengine for vague security reasons, you know, to keep you safe from yourself
You don’t like the OS; ok. Nobody likes the forced usage of the engine. But WebKit being the “worst web standards compliant” is simply not true. It’s maybe the highest on interop and certainly competitive in other ways. I wish there were more WebKit and Gecko; way too much Blink right now. Come on Ladybird and Servo.
The forks of Firefox are just as good or better, and largely lack the AI bullshit.
Firefox is my go-to browser, but don't trust Mozilla and be ready to switch to an alternative just in case Firefox gets enshittified too much.
non tech savy ppl just go with the default.
In pretty much all of life, the most consistent thing I've learned is that if it's default anything, that off rip should make you reassess it
Orion for iOS has chrome AND Firefox addons. It’s mozzarella foxfire fork.
Bullshit, there are other, better browsers who do not intentionally break basic security features like ad blocking. Switch to Firefox and Ublock Origin or any of the many forks it has.
If you are using Chrome, Brave, or similar, you should stop using it and switch to something that isn't shit. Ads are a major attack vector for malware and scams. If you are not blocking them already , you need to start immediately!
I wish people would start suggesting adnauseam. It’s basically ublock, but also silently clicks every link in the page tj poison the data. I have been using it for ages.
I've been using it for years too. Can recommend.
I will form a home-policy that allows me to only buy alternate products that were not advertised to me. Goodbye "Tide" hello "EconoSuds". If I see your ad, you are off the list.
Why wouldn't you just switch to a non-Chromium browser instead?
They'll continue to work just fine in Firefox.
And If sites start trying to block Firefox, we work around it. User-Agent is still malleable.
I think that the concern is whether a number of websites might stop working with Firefox if Chrome users consistently represent ad revenue and Firefox users generally don't.
I use Firefox, but it has relatively-limited marketshare in 2026. A lot of people just browse on mobile devices and on Android devices, Chrome's probably the default browser.
https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/
Chrome at 70.25%.
Safari at 15.72%.
Edge at 5.14%.
Firefox at 2.19%.
That's going to change though with ad blocker not working on chrome, more people will install Firefox for android.
Yeah, that's true. But...if a website derives its revenue from ads, a non-ad-viewing user
and users who switch browsers so as to use an ad blocker would presumably be blocking ads
loses that website money rather than generating it. Like, for such a website, the issue would be how many Firefox users that do view ads would be lost if their website didnlt work on Firefox.
Those of you who remember the early 2000s, when Internet Explorer had very high marketshare, probably remember a number of websites that didn't work with other browsers.
Broad rule of thumb for me:
If your website needs ad revenue to either exist, or that's fundamentally its entire business model?
That website does not need to exist.
Now sure, are their caveats to this? Yes. But broadly, its usually true. The website should exist as a small loss leading part of your whole shebang, or should have some kind of membership or donation model or something else, to fund itself.
Its also not that hard to make a website follow broswer agnostic standards. If the website can't figure out how to do that, if they think its fine to be a browser-vendor exclusive website, I don't need to use it.
Google is already killing the ad revenue model of the web by presenting the content it scrapes with AI for search — effectively stealing their content for profit — instead of ranking links so users navigate to their sites. Many have ahead seen a 70-90% drop in traffic, resulting in a 70-90% drop in ad revenue.
Capitalism is a blast, huh? Crime is very legal and very cool!
Useragent Detection - Your Current Useragent: Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; Android 10; K) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/149.0.0.0 Mobile Safari/537.36
Browser userAgentData HighEntropyValues: { "platform": "Android", "platformVersion": "10.0.0", "mobile": true, "model": "K" }
Browser Name: Chrome
Browser Version: for Android
OS: Android 10.0
Hardware Vendor: Unknown
Hardware Model: Unknown
Screen Width:
Screen Height:
Is it a desktop device: No
Is it a mobile device: Yes
Is it a tablet: No
Is it a crawler/robot: No
Is it a console: No
That's what is returned by their browser detection tool for Vanadium on graphene.
Cromite is even more privacy oriented, returning
Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; Android 10; K) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/148.0.0.0 Mobile Safari/537.36
{ "platform": "Android" }
Browser Name: Chrome
Browser Version: for Android
OS: Android 10.0
Hardware Vendor: Unknown
Hardware Model: Unknown
Their stats combine ALL versions of chrome (chromium) which would also include things like cromite, degoogled chrome, cromium itself, possibly vivaldi, apps that use webview (doordash, voyager for lemmy, bank apps, etc) might even be included as they are chrome/chromium on android, would all tally for chrome with no differentiation even though some versions are light years apart.
Cromite/vanadium and chrome are the same browssrs the way chocolate and vanilla are the same ice cream.
Oh, and to muddle things some more, on Android, viewing using desktop site gives this:
Browser Name: Chrome
Browser Version: 148.0
OS: Linux 0
Is it a desktop device: Yes
This one rules!
Edit: Here's the F-Droid repo for IronFox, it and it's predecessor Mull have always been Librewolf mobile to me
Chrome is shit pushed by a monopoly, exactly like Internet Explorer used to be.
Anyone who ever adopted Chrome was a fool, anyone who still uses it is an even bigger fool.
Chrome is not working for the freedom of the Internet, only open source web browsers can claim that.
If you are not using an open source web browser, you are undermining the freedom and value of the internet.
Firefox. Zen Browser. Waterfox. Anything other fork! They’re all different flavors of perfectly fine alternatives.
Vivaldi even if you have a website that forces Chrome down your gullet.
Just keep telling your non-nerd friends that more and worse ads aren’t something they need to tolerate.