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I personally do, he actually risked his life to release information about the government spying on people. And there are for sure more advanced ways now. Even your phone is listening.

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[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 57 minutes ago (1 children)

Yes. You're a bootlicker if you say otherwise

[–] Anonymous_Leaker@lemmy.world 0 points 53 minutes ago (1 children)

Exactly. I think FEDS are in here now. One dude was saying he isn't a hero and a criminal, lol.

[–] brad_troika@lemmy.world 5 points 28 minutes ago (1 children)

What's the point of asking for opinions if this is what you think of opinions different than yours.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 1 points 4 minutes ago

Confirmation

[–] qevlarr@lemmy.world 4 points 41 minutes ago

Yes, 100 percent. The fact that he's in exile in Russia is because he cannot get a fair trial in the US. He was never a Russian asset, he's a whistleblower being unfairly persecuted

[–] BigTurkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 51 minutes ago

Fuck ya he is, the world needs more of him. Doing something for the greater good when greed and selfishness is not your primary motive 95% of the time makes you a hero in my book.

[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 1 points 7 minutes ago

I think pretty much everywhere except tge us

[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 1 points 8 minutes ago

He was in 2013. And that's what counts.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 9 points 1 hour ago

Absolutely.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 hour ago

He's a hero. Doesn't matter that it ended up being largely ignored by the public. He was motivated by doing good and sacrificed himself for it. That's the definition of a hero. A former coworker said "who's Edward Snowden?" when he came up. From that moment on, I judged her a moron, and that turned out to be a correct judgement.

[–] RockBottom@feddit.org 12 points 1 hour ago

Yes. If there ever was one.

[–] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 hour ago

Unreservdly YES.

[–] ButtermilkBiscuit@feddit.nl 15 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Without a doubt I think he was a hero. We should build a statue to him at the NSA or Dell HQ - maybe both.

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 hours ago

Absolutely. And those who say otherwise are the real criminals

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

I got in trouble in school for putting free Kevin stuff on my binders, backpack, etc

Hero? From the stance of exposing things that should have been public knowledge, absolutely.

[–] jve@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Yeah sorry Kevin Mitnick. Always supported this type of stuff... I guess I was missing the bridge there.

[–] rethnor@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

They say he invented stairs

[–] 37piecesof_flare@lemmy.world 1 points 25 minutes ago* (last edited 24 minutes ago)

Everyone knows this, of course. Kevin Mitnick..

[–] rossman@lemmy.zip 23 points 2 hours ago

mixed but yes. the govt made an example of him and from the popular standpoint he was serving the people. he also helped GDPR so thats factored in. currently the police state is still winning.

[–] wagesj45@fedia.io 9 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Just stopping by to say hi to the glowies monitoring this thread. 👋

[–] Chaunticleer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 57 minutes ago* (last edited 56 minutes ago)

2 day old account. Whacha doin there, OP? Do they know they don't have to farm karma here?

[–] yenahmik@lemmy.world 48 points 3 hours ago

I think he blew up his life to reveal something the general public probably should be aware of, but ultimately didn't care about.

Idk if it was heroic, but it certainly was interesting how he released the info slowly to get catch the government in numerous lies attempting to downplay the truth of the matter. One of the Obama administration's biggest blights.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world -3 points 25 minutes ago* (last edited 23 minutes ago)

Almost but not quite. If he would've stayed here and faced the music then it's an unqualified yes, but his fleeing to Russia and hiding out there makes it no cigar to me.

I understand that he still was brave and gave up a lot to expose the information, but I think it may have had more impact, and would've been more heroic had he stayed here.

I could almost see an alternative history where he surrendered and then a whole political movement was born with him as the focal point.

[–] 58008@lemmy.world 20 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I think what he did was heroic. I don't know for sure that his motives were pure, like I can't see into his soul, or know what his relationship with Russia was before doing it, but all in all I think what he revealed had to be revealed. The NSA were untethered by any sort of oversight or accountability to the public, and they proved beyond any doubt just how completely and totally an agency loses it's fucking mind when no one's watching. I doubt anything changed in that regard - they've probably just strafed into a different shadowy part of the landscape and are continuing with new/improved tools - but it at least taught us all that, yes, the government really is both capable and motivated to spy on every bowel movement and armpit sniff you perform, whether or not you're a suspect in a crime. The mere affirmation that this sort of thing really goes on is worth having.

[–] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 4 hours ago

FWIW, his passport was revoked while on a layover in Russia from Hong Kong to Cuba for an intended final destination of Ecuador. This is what caused him to seek asylum in Russia because that was his only option. His involvement with wikileaks during this time is suspicious knowing what we know now, but it seems to me he either got stuck in Russia because of the US or because of Wikileaks, and he didn't knowingly have a relationship with Russia before getting stuck there.

[–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 60 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Damn right he is. He risked his safety and his life (and still does) to make sure we all know more about how the feds are spying on their own citizens.

He's a true hero of the American People, that one, make no mistake.

[–] tristan@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 15 points 4 hours ago

Selfless and morally guided actions. He’s the dictionary definition of a hero.

[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 67 points 6 hours ago

Yes. Unequivocally.

[–] corbindallas@fedinsfw.app 23 points 5 hours ago

Without reservation, yes.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 36 points 6 hours ago

Yes, and I wish him well. Be careful, if you're thinking of anything.

[–] prettybunnys@piefed.social 10 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

What he revealed was worthwhile.

How he did it was fucked.

What he’s done since …. Hasn’t helped his image.

[–] jve@lemmy.world 14 points 2 hours ago

Vague posting master class.

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 hours ago

Wait what has he done since?

[–] nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 5 hours ago (8 children)

Permanent Record was the first book I ever read (apart from the ones in school and college), and I loved it. His story does inspire me.

In my eyes, he is!

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