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By the same logic, you could prove that we are not sentient.
Engineers need to stop trying to do the job of philosophers. LLMs are not sentient, but that tells us nothing about what gives rise to sentience or whether silicon is a substrate that could host a sentient consciousness.
I'm still not convinced most people I speak to at work are sentient.
They are probably sentient. Now sapience.. is another issue altogether.
I majored in Philosophy. Though I wouldn't want to be an AI ethics consultant for one of these big companies because I imagine that whatever I write down would have to preserve profits (first and foremost) and then gaslight everyone into thinking it's all perfectly ethical and okay and no one (including mother earth) is being harmed in the process.
You don't need an ethicist if you don't have ethics! /s
I just wish we could put this dumb sentient AI stuff to bed for now. Congrats, you guys built the most powerful (and wasteful) auto-complete. It's not sentient and your marketing doesn't have to be hyperbolic lies.
Can you build a human from goats in AOE2?
For this proof to work, you'd have to prove that you can't. And we can simulate whole worm brains and fly brains, and they behave like real in simulated worlds, so you'd have to prove that there's something different about humans. This paper doesn't offer anything like that.
An average human? No. A lemmy.world user? Yes.
Yeah, fuck those idiots for joining when it was the only instance accepting new members
Haha, I'm still trying to decide if the upvotes and downvotes here are going after the sarcasm or the dumb literal take. Snort
I have no knowledge of this drama or hard feelings for your instance in either direction.
But was that ever a thing? I joined a month after you and there where options plenty.
It was absolutely a thing right when the 3P app reddit fiasco happened. Everybody was scrambling, and I'm not surprised that there were tons more options even just a month later, but at the time everyone else was completely overloaded. I tried signing up for as many instances as I could find, and lemmy.world was the only one that wasn't shitting the bed with new registrations.
I just found out I'm scum on lemmy woot! Who knew people didn't like certain instances, are some better than others? Like do you get better info faster? Or is this pure sarcasm?
Are we discriminating against instances now? Is this a thing?
Sweetie, that was a thing before your instance existed.
For the record, at least one Nobel Prize winner disagrees about LLM sentience
Exactly!
The researcher didn't make an LLM, he made a NAND gate, and in theory that could be expanded into an LLM
All computers are just a minimum of three layers of NAND gates
he made more than a NAND gate. he created a 1-bit perceptron and a perceptron-training circuit after figuring out how to make a NAND gate
"Man built brain out of simple particles, proving brains are not sentient."
HOLY SHIT, AGE OF EMPIRES II IS SENTIENT
Who knew age of empires was gonna one up the president? In this the year of our Lord 2026
Lord Henry Percy: Thou art human, with soul and wit! I am naught but clockwork!
Lord Henry Percy: No wonder thou wert victorious! I shall abdicate.
Lord Henry Percy has resigned.
The moderate difficulty computer I just beat disagrees.
It is incredible how we forgotten the whole point of the Turning test the moment it became relevant rather than some abstract though experiment.
The turing test is not relevant anymore. Any LLM would pass the turing test without much problems.
Any LLM would pass the turing test without much problems.
Lol no. There are soooo many completely terrible bots. The vast majority.
that's the whole fucking point of the Turing test.
that sentence isn't a strict true or false, and if you can't tell the difference, then the real question is wether there is a difference.
maybe the only ethical solution is to assume it is and consider using it a form of extremely unethical slavery.
under that lens modern AI is some rick and Morty bullshit. Like imagine creating a life for a menial task then executing it as soon as it's done. Then everyone discussing it's competency rather than how fucked up it is.
I'm not grasping what you want to say.
The turing test is an outdated test, it has been an important milestone but nobody working on computer sentience either philosophically or scientifically considers it a valid test anymore.
According to the turing test, LLMs are sentient beings. The widespread opinion is that they are not.
According to the test, it might be. The biggest reason why it isn't is according to the capitalist financial interest.
I'm not saying it is. or isn't.
but we cannot just with this toys that we don't understand.
To be fair, humans anthropomorphising everything, of course they do that with software that can fucking talk to them.
John Searle is the GOAT?
