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[–] LievitoPadre@feddit.it 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I believe that the idea is genuinely good; however if you think about all the data that leaves your phone and that can be used for tracking, spying and so on, it gets disgusting.

[–] 5gruel@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

i think that a lot recently. so many great technologies that cannot be trusted in the hands of corporations. and sadly, people then reject technology instead of demanding a version in public domain.

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[–] unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago

I can remember my own coversations myself, thanks.

And what I feel I might both need and forget I'll write down Either on the phone or using pen and paper.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 115 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Welcome to your "I only buy vintage tech" era.

Mine started when 3.5 mm audio jacks started disappearing. We all draw a line.

[–] ilovepiracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Alternatively - the pocket computer revolution is beginning. Hell, many in my tech circles are making cyberdecks and the sorts with hopes of only using a phone to make and receive calls. Disconnect from the 'big' in Big Tech, not the tech :D

[–] Orioniae@piefed.social 6 points 22 hours ago

Technology divergence is inevitable after corporations saw that convergence into an “all in one device” made their work much simpler.

No surprise feature phones, MP3 players and dedicated-use devices are making a comeback. My wish is for full pocket computers to return.

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[–] webkitten@piefed.social 28 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Thank god I have Graphene.

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[–] oats@piefed.zip 44 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Illegal in Germany. You may not record conversations, if you try to enter something like that as evidence you'll get punished as well.

I suspect there are many countries with laws like that, and if your phone actually disables the feature when you enter them or just let's you hang to dry...

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

if you try to enter something like that as evidence you’ll get punished as well.

They'll just use parallel construction

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[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Doubt. The law likely talks about making unauthorized recordings. There is likely nothing in the law that would disallow automatic transcription if no recording is created.

Unless the law is extremely vague such as “it is unlawful for a microphone to pick up conversations” the law likely doesn’t cover this situation.

I am more than happy (and eager) to be proven wrong, but in my experience the law tends to lag behind tech by quite a bit.

[–] oats@piefed.zip 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I didn't check the actual law, always a good idea to do so.

So, §201 StGB actually covers both, it is forbidden to "aufnehmen" (record) as well as "mithören" (spy on). Bonus, its forbidden to cite transcription (im Wortlaut mitteilen).

Its an old law, going back to video cameras with magnetic tape and actually tapping a phone line. So it was used quite often, including the mentioned fake surveillance cameras, that didn't record or even view anything but seemed to the public they did.

When dashcams became a thing people would be sentenced for using them. These days you can use dashcams, but never save for more than 24h or show the recording to anyone but the police/court.

I guess the law is a relict of living next door to Stasi, but its really just a guess of mine.

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[–] db2@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I already get "random" ads for things that were only part of a verbal conversation that happened to be near the phone.

What I want is a physical kill switch for the mic and camera, less surveillance not more.

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 26 points 1 day ago (15 children)

That's been happening for well over a decade now, and while "respectable security researchers" call it bullshit... there's simply too much anecdotal evidence for it to happen organically.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 45 points 1 day ago (12 children)

The reality is they don't need to listen.

They have so much data on users.

  • how old you are
  • where you are
  • what you last bought
  • when you just bought it
  • who you are near
  • what they bought
  • what the people around you are searching and what ads they are seeing
  • what is being bought and sold by everyone around you
  • when you sleep
  • what you eat
  • the things you are chatting about on MMS
  • where you go
  • when you're home and when and where you work

It just goes on and on and on.

People think they are unique but they are not as unique as they think.

[–] this@sh.itjust.works 3 points 18 hours ago

You're right that they don't need to, but in reality they do whether they announce it or not.

In 2017 I tested this at home alone in my apartment in by myself using my smarphone by finding a site with lots of banner ads, monologing next to my phone about a topic with no relation to my current life at the time for about a minute, then refreshing the page. To my horror, the exact thing I was monologing about showed up on every single banner ad. Nothing in my life was going on related to that topic and the only thing connecting me and the topic was my own vocal words.

That was the moment I decided to avoid Google/big tech for the rest of my life.

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[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)
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[–] lemmelemmy@feddit.org 6 points 23 hours ago

Can’t wait for the compatible moto phones

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[–] SacredHeartAttack@lemmy.world 67 points 1 day ago

Fucking yikes

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 41 points 1 day ago

Um, oh fuck no.

The reams of personally-identifiable information that will leak is insane.

We're not allowed to have Siri and Alexa listening when we're working, lest a stray word on a phone call from the home office risks a privacy breach.

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