No. I already have a good gaming pc. I wanted one for living room gaming but not for that price.
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Not at current spec and price. I don't think it's worth what I would get. It's also already sold out except the 512 w/ steam controller version for my region so I couldn't even if I wanted to for the larger spec versions.
I'll just slowly continue to upgrade my PC as money allows.
Unlikely. Was going to get one to replace my old pc but I gave up waiting back in April when a local pc shop had a sale. I'm glad I bought then because the prices have just keep going up since.
Probably, if I can. My PC is a prebuilt one from four years ago, it's really showing its age. I'm not sure if another pre built would be better, but the steam machine has tremendously better stats than my current system.
I know I could probably build a PC and get better value, but I hate assembling the bastards so much its worth having someone else do it for me.
And I don't know how much of a better deal it might be these days.
No. With that price, extra no.
But in the current economy I'm not really buying anything else either.
No, but it's not the issue of the price. I have a capable gaming pc, though it's been a few generations. Still it holds up and I can game what I want in the quality I'm OK with.
But purchasing hardware has gotten so unattractive that I just don't care anymore. Until that shit is fixed I'll stay off that radar. Of course that might be never, but I also have a backlog that would take multiple lives to finish and it's still growing.
Got a reservation but haven't fully committed yet. I guess I have…er…reservations about it?
Are you gonna be buying a Steam machine?
No, but I was never the target audience and I wouldn't have bought one regardless of price. I'm currently using a laptop and if I ever want a stationary gaming machine again I'll just build one myself, I don't care for a console-like experience either so even SteamOS isn't a selling point for me.
So, do you think even at this price point Valve is taking a hit?
Nope. Pretty sure that they're at least breaking even on the hardware. It's a PC, they can't be sure of future game sales. You could use alternative stores, pirate everything, or not use it for gaming at all.
Are you gonna buy?
Probably not.
do you think even at this price point Valve is taking a hit?
No, as that would be stupid of them. Why would they subsidize a normal PC? This would lead to people buying them with the purpose of deliberately not using steam.
Do you think if this sells well it will drastically increase the cost of other consoles (completely independent of the external factor being hardware shortage due to AI)
Excluding the whole AI bs: it should not but it probably will as any way to raise the prices is welcome to Microslop, Sony and Nintendo.
They're already telegraphing that the current Xbox business model has to change. I'm guessing that means unsubsidized consoles.
I'm 50/50 as of today and have another day or two to decide before the wait list closes. The 2TB version with controller is the only one I would want, and it is 50% more than I wanted to spend.
But, the form factor and being ready to go out of the box is extremely enticing. The games I would play on it are the ones in my backlog that I don't get to as they are more fun on a TV than a PC but switching screens is annoying. The way I see it is the steam machine is buying a console that can play all of the games I already have, which is far better deal than a console that I would need to buy games for.
It wouldn't be a great way to spend money today, but it wouldn't be a strain so I might end up flipping a coin tomorrow to decide.
I would if it was $499
Consoles never made sense to me. I need to upgrade my GPU soon I guess, my GTX 1660S wants to get replaced at one point. However I am enjoying rising Linux compatibility, last 2 years have been great. So go guys buy Valve hardware ;)
I play all my games on Steam and the console like experience sounds like it's up my alley but I prefer having a desktop and streaming over WiFi. If I were to upgrade anything in my setup it'd be a graphics card, not an entire machine.
I'm not really part of the target audience. I already have a laptop that's slightly more powerful and I could hook it up to my TV if that was a thing I wanted to do. I don't need a separate gaming PC for my living room.
Nah, my existing PC is good enough. But I'm very likely to get the Steam Frames once they're out. And I'll probably be playing around with SteamOS on my own machine, just because apparently it's compatible
Nah. If it became cheaper or I found one on Ebay for a much lower price one day then maybe. The price it is at now is just too much and you may as well just build a very decent mid range gaming PC for that amount.
I sure hope it does not increase the cost of future consoles. Many will be locked out of the gaming market altogether if that happens because a lot are living on the edge as it is already from paycheck to paycheck.
No. The most intensive game I play is Skyrim. Someday though I might take an used SFF pre-built (like the thinkcentre), plop a low profile GPU into it, and play some slightly heavier games lile Dark Souls 3
Nope both because i don't have that kind of disposable income and my laptop is currently fine with the handful of games i play and I dont need it for anything else heavy.
Yes, it's a pretty well built gaming system. I could use a replacement and it's not that expensive compared to systems I've built in the past.
When you frame it like that it isn't really that bad. The first PC I built back in 2014 was around 1500, including peripherals so around 1100-1200 alone. But Its so much more useful than a individual console. I've been comparing it to an Xbox not an actual PC.
Simply cannot justify that price.
When the ps6 costs over $1000 this will be positioned well.
Right now it might be ahead of its time but that’s not out of character for valve. It’s easier to react to market conditions if you already have a product than it is to spin one up in a hurry.
I think they expect early adopters at this stage, it will get them early feedback and drives some platform revenue.
The problem is that the Ps6 is likely to have higher specs if it's at a similar price point. I've heard that this box has similar specs to the Ps5 so it's unlikely that Ps6 will have similar specs to this
It's a point of pride to build my own PCs, including Linux boxes.
Maybe if a major component in my PC dies, but for now I'm happy to see how it goes.
lol, no.
I want to laugh at the ex-friend now for him thinking the steam machine was going to be affordable and be a feasible option for those looking for - AFFORDABLE - building PC options.
What a moron.
Nope, but I wasn't planning to buy one even before the price announcement. I have a solid upper-midrange PC that easily outperforms the Steam Machine and I also have it connected to my projector for living room gaming. Aside from having a neat design and formfactor, a low-spec PC with limited ports that I can't really upgrade just isn't appealing to me.
I was lucky enough to out together a nice PC just before the AI thing made the prices explode, plus I've been a PC gamer all my life (except for the PS1 I had as a kid), so I won't buy the Machine.
That said, I had high hopes it'd be a success, more so given how well the Controller has sold, and that it'd be the things that brought Linux to lots of people who would never consider it otherwise.
Unfortunately, I fear the price will damped things quite a bit.
I really want a powerful miniPC to replace my Rokus and also play 80% of my library. But $1100 for the 512gb without a controller is a hard pill to swallow. I can get an equivalent laptop for about the same price or less, and it's still portable.
I reserved a 512gb and a 2tb, but I may hold out for the Frame. I fell like Valve should rethink the strategy, because there are a lot of console gamers that would break into the market if the price is right, $1,100 is too high. Especially since it still won't be able to play games with anti-cheat, so most of the competitive games aren't even an option.
Yup
yeah, I am a huge valve fan and love everything they put out. It's the perfect emulator machine for me, I can move everything over from my pc to this
I already have a full n gaming PC, but I also played a bit over the last month and built a Steam Machine for under $400 using an AMD BC-250 crypto mining card. From bc-250.info: A cut-down PlayStation 5 APU with 6 Zen 2 cores and 24 RDNA2 compute units, sharing 16GB of fast GDDR6 memory.
It takes some tweaking and it's not top of the line, but it's a fun project that can play most games. There is also a script that can let you unlock disabled compute units to increase performance assuming they are not damaged.
Im not currently in the market for a couch gaming type of system, as I mainly game in my room where my PC is, and if I want to play on the tv I have an HDMI more than long enough to allow for it.
However if I did want a system for downstairs I'd be more likely to pick up a steam machine over a ps5, even at the current price point
I’ve got a powered USB extension cable running to my basement so I can have my Steam Controller plugged in down there, and use my Xbox with Moonlight to stream my PC over Ethernet to the TV. No need.
I had considered it, but there’s no way at that price point. Also, like I said, no need.
No, i already have a pc and never really liked consoles. Got too comfortable with a keyboard and mouse setup. Yeah those do support keyboard and a mouse setup as well, but might as well get a PC at that point already.
And i do like to build and tinker with my hardware, much more easier on PC than with a console.
nope
it's a straight downgrade for me, so no way I'd replace it as my daily driver.
I could consider one if the prices go down like below 600$ range, switch up my media center with it maybe. Impossible with the current prices though.
PC gaming is associated with high-end gaming, but Steam has the stats and they're targetting middde-of-the-road systems with the Steambow--a shockingly low standard to PC Master Race types.
No. I'll go for a regular PC at any price point really.
I still favour steam over the competitors due to their work on Proton and Linux in general.
Profitable console, probably not. Consoles are usually loss leaders but 93% of the Steam market is windows. They need to do something about it to not have nightmares about DirectX13 being Microsoft store only and 48 months of antitrust litigation bleeding them dry. They don't have to be successful, just a credible threat to keep Microsoft honest.
Other consoles probably won't change price because of the Steam machines, but may change price for the same reason a Steam machine does.
So serious question....why would anyone who owns a pc already buy this instead of saving up and upgrading their rig instead? Correct me if I'm wrong but your essentially buying a console for over a $1000 just to play some steam games? Sure it will run indie games no problem but you cant enjoy any current day AAA titles at their full potential with out melting this cube that looks like has no airflow. Also unless I'm missing something it has integrated cpu/GPU?
So serious question....why would anyone who owns a pc already buy this instead of saving up and upgrading their rig instead?
I'm not a hardcore gamer at all, not anymore (if I ever was), but my take on this is that I do have a solid PC, and quite a few Steam games, but I rarely play them because the PC is in my home office and I don't want to go there to relax in the evening. Being able to play them on my TV and on my sofa would be great.
I still probably won't get the Steambox, or not yet. But that's the appeal if it, for me, anyway.
"Some Steam games"... If you look at it from a console gamer's perspective, Steam's back catalog is colossal. I have over 1000 games going back to the Half Life 2 days.
I haven't looked at the specs for the Steam Machines, but I doubt they're worse than a Switch 2 or an Xbox Series S. Modern AAA games already have to account for modest reference platforms. At least these don't have all the bloat of a Windows machine.