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[–] shininghero@pawb.social 42 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Tall hoods, poor intersection designs inhibiting sidewalk visibility, and idiots assuming "right on red" means they can blast through the turn without needing to check.

[–] AbsolutelyClawless@piefed.social 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

That's so bizarre to me. Even on green you sometimes have to stop if the pedestrians have green too. And right on red still confuses me. Why not have a dedicated green arrow light?

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

You are supposed to come to a stop, yield for any cross traffic that has the right of way, then you can turn right when it’s clear.

A green arrow light wouldn’t solve the problem because right on red is supposed to allow people to merge with the flow of traffic, and a green arrow would require there to be no traffic.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 31 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Can't have flip up lights becaus of pedestrians but moving walls of death are fine!

[–] ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Did something happen to flip up headlights? I still see them all over the place.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

In the 90s there were some regulation changes about how headlights worked like requiring them to be open if the mechanism failed and pedestrian safety that made them difficult for car designers to implement so they faded out of style.

[–] Gerblat@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

As far as I know they haven’t been allowed on new cars for a long time, but if you have an older car that has them it’s still legal to drive

[–] ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 3 points 2 weeks ago

Makes sense, I guess I just hadn't noticed the change over the years. My son has two cars with pop-up headlights in the yard now, one has a light that keeps going back up and to me it's hilarious.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago

Just gonna leave this here.

[–] savvie@lemmy.zip 29 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

drivers in vehicles with absurdly high hoods have killed hundreds of pedestrians

[–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 weeks ago

The tool does affect the result, though. It's like stories of mass violence across the world: here in the US, you see a headline like "mass shooting, 10 dead 1 wounded". In places like China, you see headlines like "mass stabbing, 1 dead 10 wounded".

Shitty drivers will always exist, but a shitty driver in a reasonable car is gonna be a lot less effective at manslaughter.

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Just make it illegal to have unsafe vehicles. Do a buyback for the existing ones.

Billions for war but anything actually useful is too expensive. This is the bad place.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago

I'll take "Things That Will Never Happen" for $1000!

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] jtrek@startrek.website 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'd defer to someone with more expertise, but I'd guess a lot of SUVs and trucks are going to be disqualified.

While I'm waving this low grade magic wand, maybe require a special license for SUVs or something.

[–] pucker4676@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Some of the worst drivers I've encountered have a CDL.

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 1 points 2 weeks ago

I believe it. But adding that barrier would mean some bad drivers wouldn't bother, and they'd get a smaller, safer, car instead.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 weeks ago

Despite continued incremental improvements to road infrastructure, pedestrian deaths are spiking, and it's all because of a narrow new class of vehicles.

[–] shrek_is_love@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 weeks ago
[–] bridgeburner@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

I hate how car manufacturers push SUVs aggressively and managed to brainwash most people into believing that they need a 2 ton vehicle for just driving to work. They clog the streets, damage them quicker due to their high weight and lower the amount of parking spots. They consume more gas, leading to more pollution. Fck everyone who drives an SUV. They are so fckn unnecessary.

[–] turtlesareneat@piefed.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago

It's weird to me that rear view cameras have become so important and mandated (for good reason) while the front end is becoming more and more dangerous - I don't want to throw technology at every problem but front bumper cams would probably do a lot as well, especially at low speeds, it could activate and take over the instrument panel when it detects anything solid in range. Be better than nothing - they're not going to ban SUVs in this country anytime soon, I'm afraid.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Its called a 23rd term Ford Abortion

[–] _cnt0@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Was anything wrong with the previous 100 studies, that it needed this one?

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago

More data points = more good?

[–] Ooops@feddit.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

As long as they don't get the result you want you do more studies, so you can pretend it's still actively studied and the results aren't clear yet.

[–] Hupf@feddit.org 3 points 2 weeks ago

Vehicles don't kill people. Guns kill people.

Oh wait wrong community.

[–] the_wizard_of_0Z@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

yup... baby crusherz for men who act like boyz ..... I wich upon a star for a ford ranger from back in the day

FORD RANGERRRRRR

I know this truck, I ain't no stranger, I know that truck that's a ford fuckin' Ranger!

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

Kinda looking at the Slate truck myself, but I am skeptical of all new cars these days.

[–] PlasmaTrout@lemmy.wtf 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Wonder how many of these were "squatted" trucks?

[–] cubism_pitta@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Squatted trucks are likely a rounding error in the data. Especially when the stock hood height of many modern trucks is so tall.

I ride past an F250, Cybertruck, or Escalade on my bicycle and my head is just barely over the hood

I AM 5'11!!!!!!

[–] Eternal192@anarchist.nexus -5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"tall vehicle hoods are at fault" no hon it's idiots buying and driving large vehicles that's the problem, they aren't qualified to drive a go cart let alone something with a "large hood" and i fucking hate that fucking excuse, whoever did that study and published it in a serious tone is an idiot.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Glad you got some feelings out. I'm sure you already know you're wrong but I'll bet you purchased a vehicle in the last five years and it's got a high hood.

[–] Eternal192@anarchist.nexus 2 points 2 weeks ago

Actually smartass i still drive a 2012 Dacia Sandero that i bought in 2019.