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[–] YaksDC@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I am currently at the tail end of a 3 week trip from Amsterdam to Lisbon, all via train. It is fucking awesome. Not to mention that as a tourist you can use the public transportation in various cities for free. Europe has it figured out.

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[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I mean... I'd totally rock a personal mini train that left when I wanted and rode on a track.

[–] rainwall@piefed.social 32 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

That basically how trains work in Copenhagen. They use small, automated trains that come every couple of minutes. You just wander to the station and get on, no planning or anything.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GzamwVH3CXU

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[–] Wataba@sh.itjust.works 0 points 20 hours ago (22 children)

Trains cant take you to specific spots, especially outside the greater urban areas.

When my public transport to work stops being 3-4x longer than simply driving, not to mention the inherent issues of being stuffed into a bus, let me know.

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[–] Whimsical418@aussie.zone 9 points 2 days ago
[–] BillyClark@piefed.social 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

trains rule

All I know is that the tunnel snakes rule. I don't know whether a train is technically a tunnel snake or not.

I agree about tunnels snakes. You cannot deny. They just manifested ruling in their default introduction and have not given one reason NOT to rule since. They too, are born from train's sibling using a term someone made a portmonteau of the subterranian...WAY? Normalize subtrainian.

[–] vapeloki@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The only way to solve the self driving cat issue is to ban all human drivers from the road.

So, if some techbro wants self driving cars, just give everybody one. All electric of course.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My hope has always been that if self driving cars are successful, almost nobody will own a personal car.

Cars are massively wasteful. Put aside the idea you're hauling around multiple tonnes of steel and glass frequently to just move one person. Ignore the pollution aspect too. They're also wasteful because they're used for maybe 2 hours per day, and the other 22 they just sit somewhere taking up space and getting rusty.

Just think about how many stationary cars you pass when you're out in the world. Nobody's getting any use out of them, they're just sitting there in case they're needed, meanwhile they're taking up useful space. There are other potentially expensive things you only use for a short amount of time each day: say, a good kitchen knife. But, most of them are indoors where they're not exposed to the elements and deteriorating without being used.

In a future with self-driving cars, owning a car could be a luxury that enthusiasts could pay for, if it was worth it to them, but everybody else who needed a car could just rent a car for an hour or two.

[–] vapeloki@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think that is the difference of perspective. Living in Germany, I did my driver's license with 22, didn't need it before. I could live without a car.

Yes, many would profit from shared, autonomous cars. But many would profit from public transport here in Germany to, and guess what. They want cars.

I hate this as much as the next dude. But if they really really want them, at least make them electric

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

if they really really want them, at least make them electric

And very expensive.

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago (5 children)

The only way to solve the self driving cat issue is to ban all human drivers from the road.

...and cyclists, and pedestrians, and farm tractors, and horses, and wagons, and stray pets, and wildlife, and...

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[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (23 children)

Giving everybody a self-driving car completely defeats the purpose. Human-driven cars spend about 23 hours of each day just sitting around. A car that can drive itself doesn't need to spend any time being parked - it can provide another ride! Liberally assuming a self-driving car would need to spend a full half of its time (12 hours/day) charging or being serviced, that would still mean that replacing all cars with autonomous vehicles could reduce traffic volume by a theoretical limit of 12× (12 hours/day/vehicle vs. 1 hour/day/vehicle).

[–] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

you're forgetting here that all people want to commute at the same time between 7am and 9am in the morning. so you can't just operate 1 vehicle 24 hours around, you need the vehicles for these two hours especially and then some in the afternoon.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Elimination of personal vehicles would make public transit more attractive; with the previously foregone conclusion that one must own a vehicle gone, the choice is between a few dollars for transit, or several times more than that for a private vehicle. How many people currently choose to take an Uber or Lyft to and from work?

Also, it's certainly not all people, nor all commuters.

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Trains for long haul + autotaxis (or air taxis) for short, low speed rides actually sounds pretty dope.

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