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Depending on what you count as industrialization you can put basically every country that ever industrialized ever in a 40 to 50 year time frame. Obviously early adopter like the UK took a bit longer while later adopters like the UDSSR, China or Japan for example could learn from the others and be faster. How does this have to do anything with communism?
Ah uh the fact that our government is currently bad does not make their government good.
You can get a lot done when you turn your country into a slave state.
Yeah let’s just ignore Stalinism and all the death and suffering it caused.
I don't understand this point. Or actually, what it's trying to say at all. This doesn't refute the fact stated in the post. "It happened in a bad way." Yeah, I agree, and I would go further to say that it's easily one of the worst human rights atrocities in history, but I have some bad news about how most of the world developed its wealth. And I got further news for the response that I can already smell cooking none of it is justified.
But the worst news of all: "yes let's just ignore Stalinism" as a phrase is such a brainded take. I'm still reeling trying to figure out how it factors into this conversation at all.
Yeah, no. It is equally falacious to credit the ussr with single-handedly defeating the nazis as it is to single-handedly credit the U.S. There's a fucking reason it's called a world war and anyone who's actually studied the history knows that no one emerged from that looking great (leaving aside the propaganda they produced). The best you can say is some marginally less evil nations came together to defeat a more evil one, but were primarily concerned with protecting and extending their own influence.
They say shit like that then be like "we have to beat Russia to the moon"
"be beat Russia at some arbitrary target at set up because they beat us up at every other step"
Ummm, the Soviets wouldn't have had to fight the Nazis if Stalin hadn't signed a non-aggression pact with Hitler.
On the other hand, they wouldn't have had a space program without the Nazi scientists...
Are you talking about operation paperclip?
Yes, literally the exact same thing as the Americans and a few other powers did. Along with hiding Japanese war criminals on exchange for their worthless data in torture.
I believe whatade this possible was the centralized state which allowed for quick organization of projects and the belief held in communism that everyone is equal. I am however unsure if communism in the UDSSR worked overall. I am admitedly uninformed, but if it was anything like the GDR, I'd say no. (Planned economy, scarcity of goods, strict surveillance)