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[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 68 points 17 hours ago (10 children)

Yeah, let's give the trump administration the power to seize companies it doesn't like, that is a great idea that def won't be abused all the time

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

The author probably forgot who runs the nation of usa.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 17 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

We no longer live in a world where our biggest fear would be the government controlling high level corporations and their operators.

We now live in a world controlled by Sociopathic Oligarchs who can afford to create government level technology. Right now it's mostly tourism rockets and satellites, but now we see Skum weaponizing that technology, and/or using it as a bargaining chip. He has cut off Starlink in a war zone to benefit the county who defers to him, but is openly hostile to the US, and now he's threatening to cut off our access to the space station. He is using tech that WE PAY FOR with government contracts and grants, to pursue his own diplomacy, for his own benefit, and against our interests.

Eventually, someone will start building and stockpiling actual weapons, perhaps even atomics. Then we will be asking why someone didn't step in and stop them before they became a bonafide threat.

We paid for Skum's technology, and he gets to control it as a courtesy. Just the threat of using it against us should be enough reason to declare him a national security threat, confiscate his American-taxpayer financed businesses, and imprison him.

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[–] Grizzlyboy@lemmy.zip 39 points 16 hours ago (8 children)

I don’t think the majority of Americans understand what that means. They’ll just scream “commies!” And raise their maga flag.

But the idea of a starlink-like business owned by UN would be nice, and not an American corporation owned by a nepobaby Elmo.

[–] FreedomAdvocate -1 points 5 hours ago

Then the UN should start their own starlink-like company. Nothing is stopping them.

[–] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 23 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

In the USA space-x gets away with a lot. A few years ago they announced they were no longer going to bother with getting all the FAA approvals needed for their rockets because it took too long. Space-x still got government contracts.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

A few years ago they announced they were no longer going to bother with getting all the FAA approvals needed for their rockets because it took too long. Space-x still got government contracts.

How long back was that? I genuinely didn't hear about that, but I believe that would happen. I tried googling "space x faa" but I'm getting results of FAA investigating rocket issues and approvals of rocket models.

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[–] sugarfoot00@lemmy.ca 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

You should familiarize yourself with Telsat Canada's LEO plans. Should be complete in less than 2 years.

Telsat Lightspeed

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[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 87 points 18 hours ago (5 children)

Has anyone considered funding NASA?

They made rockets that didn't explode with duct tape and a TI-83 calculator.

[–] Uruanna@lemmy.world 30 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Shouldn't be incompatible with nationalizing SpaceX and Starlink. Just give it all to NASA, actually.

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 8 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Sure, that's the ideal.

Is it likely? Ehhhh

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[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 5 points 12 hours ago

The oligarchs wouldn't like that precedent but they might go for purchasing SpaceX since it is owned by a foreigner. Kind of like with TikTok....

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 48 points 20 hours ago (8 children)

Lets reach a compromise. Impeach Trump (successfully) and then take away SpaceX from Elon. That way things would be fair.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 18 points 19 hours ago

Trump has been impeached successfully. Twice. What I assume you mean is that he hasn't been removed from office. That could be the consequence of an impeachment, but not necessarily.

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[–] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

Starlink should not just be nationalized but internationalized.
It is internet for everyone on earth, not everyone in the USA.

Every larger nation deploying their own constellation would be a pointless waste of resources, and every smaller nation having to find reliable partner-nations to tap into for that internet access would inevitably lead to people ending up without access due to political games.

Low orbit satellite constellations are the perfect candidate for sharing, they would literally sit unused over most of their orbits otherwise.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 127 points 1 day ago (61 children)

You could always just fund the space agency you already have, instead of funneling money to a foreign billionaire.

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[–] MyOpinion@lemmy.today 9 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Step one Musk needs to be arrested and sent to El Salvador.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

No thanks. We need to shut down all U.S. affiliation with prisons outside the U.S. Release those prisoners or transfer them back to the U.S. and have proper trials. Trump needs to stand trial for the fake electors and for every unconstitutional measure he has done before/since as an unconstitutional act that the Supreme Court deems unconstitutional should not be considered an official act. The President should be suspended from all duties until Congress performs an investigation draws up the articles of impeachment and it is tried by the Senate.

Musk should be tried for election interference and any other laws he may have broken but it should be done right here in the U.S. If anything freeze all of his accounts and require him to step down from any/all roles within his companies as part of his required bale terms, or otherwise he would be choosing to spend the time awaiting trial in jail.

These actions would ensure they aren't trying to drag court cases out for years, they would want the court cases to move along faster.

Would Trump get convicted by the Senate, unlikely. That's on us for voting terrible people into the legislative branch. But we can't complain about those who break the law if we think it's fine to break the law when it fits our wants. We need to update those laws legally or tear the whole thing down and say Musk and Trump didn't break any laws because we didn't think those laws mattered as well.

[–] Darleys_Brew@lemmy.ml 18 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

We? No. USA can if it wants that shit.

[–] Burghler@sh.itjust.works 19 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

American exceptionalism is so fucking annoying. Their country is failing to a point hopefully this first person shit rightfully corrects to third person.

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 39 points 21 hours ago (8 children)

Has US nationalized anything this millenia? I really don't see that ever happening

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 36 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Tax burdens for billionaires

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