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[–] gusgalarnyk@lemmy.world 16 points 15 hours ago

Just want to say, I bought a framework 13 and it's fantastic. Been running arch off of it for two years and it's been a workhorse.

It was expensive comparable to a similar specced PC at the time but I make enough to vote with my wallet so that's what I did. I think anyone who has the money but doesn't, simply because there's a better deal that's worse for the environment and the makers of the item, while holding a right to repair or anti-corporate mindset are hypocritical at best.

The world gets better if we make it that way, and I see buying a framework (if you have the extra money) as a small step in a better direction.

[–] yardratianSoma@lemmy.ca 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Honestly, why would I spend thousands on a framework, when I can spend 3x less or more, with a used thinkpad, that is already fairly repairable?

If I was rich, sure, I'd buy a framework in a heartbeat, but am not rich, yet . . . . . . .

[–] vantablack@lemmy.blahaj.zone 43 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

motherfuckers acting like those laptops aren't five hundred bajillion dollars

[–] Prathas@lemmy.zip 3 points 13 hours ago

Yeah, I was about to say: with the prices of new machines nowadays, whenever all mine eventually conk out, I may just try to get used machines for pennies on the dollar at estate sales and revive them with Linux, haha.

[–] qaz@lemmy.world 16 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Exactly, my last laptop was around €750 but I remember looking for a similar (in terms of performance) Framework laptop and it was around €1200 if I remember correctly, not an insignificant difference for a student.

[–] Blonohibo@lemmy.zip 4 points 16 hours ago

I was really determined to get one, partially because I love the cotton candy pink, don't judge. But now that memory and ram prices went up, it went from a premium price to absolutely insane. I'm just gonna stick with my old thinkpad another decade or so at this rate.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

The idea of repairable notebooks sound good, except it's done by getting filtered through the tech bro lens. Still an ultrabook, the ports must be interchangeable modules to amaze the investors/users.

[–] cravl@slrpnk.net 1 points 10 hours ago

Yikes, XDA's reporting has really gone downhill since being bought out.

[–] Kaligalis@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

This proves that making a product twice as expensive actually does decrease sales significantly if you aren't Apple.

[–] kshade@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

It isn't twice as expensive though.

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[–] Mio@feddit.nu 4 points 14 hours ago

To me it is that i upgrade to few times so the laptop would be 10 years old and then everything is out of date. Maybe upgrade battery in between. However, I guess these are really good in the used(resold) market.

[–] nomadjoanne@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago

This may seem weird but I dislike the aspect ratio of their screens.

I have a desktop with 16:9 monitors and a laptop with 16:10.

Those are close enough that your workflow doesn't really change. But 2:3 is different enough it makes a difference.

That and for what they are they're crazy expensive. So I went for a Slimbook (kinda the Spanish version of Tuxedo). They're not perfect but I found them "good enough".

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 22 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Who would have thought a more expensive, more premium product would have a hard time finding customers during a time when people are struggling to pay bills and cant even afford the non-existent dollar menu at mcdonalds anymore.

[–] manmachine@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Thing is, they feel decidedly less premium (while sure as fuck being more expensive), which doesn’t help the case

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

and lets face it, by the time its out of warranty and old enough to need any kind of easy repair.. the replacement parts are probably gonna cost as much as a newer, much more up to date laptop from another company.

Which is inherently the problem with repair ability in general.

I run into the same problem with cellphones.. I could replace the battery in mine and run it for another 6 years, or I could get a much newer (used) phone for the same price, and end up with a almost 100% new battery AND much better hardware.

but parts will never be made cheap enough to be reasonable and affordable, because people will just buy the parts and assemble the product themselves. So parts have to be at least as expensive as buying the new thing, if not more expensive, to discourage the act itself.

[–] manmachine@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

I wish it wasnt that way, Things should not just be repairable, they should be affordably repairable, because thats a major step towards dealing with a disposable society.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 14 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

If I were god king of (USA/Europe/Asia...the Universe), I would subsidize repairable laptops. It would save resources in the long run, for both humanity and the planet.

[–] vector42@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

All hail king SabinStargem!

[–] nemith@programming.dev 11 points 20 hours ago

I have bought and returned 2 framework laptops. They are repairable but they are also questionable build quality.

The screen on the Framework 12 is very subpar and the size and weight throw it out of being a light laptop.

Despite saying how good Linux support was running NixOS on the replacement Framwork 13 was not great either. Wireless drops and countless reports of drops on their forums with zero responses or workarounds. Most people buy replacement wireless adapters cause the one Framework ships just doesn't work.

On top of that the laptop just feel cheap with a steep price. I have hope for the new Pro, but we'll have to see if it's any good because so far I am pretty dissapointed with Framework.

[–] GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world 10 points 20 hours ago

I would love to have a Framework laptop. Those things are awesome as hell.

Unfortunately, my very old laptop that I've torn down and repaired over a dozen times is still kicking. And spending $100 to fix it is cheaper than spending a gazillion dollars on a new Framework.

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 65 points 1 day ago (6 children)

The article is clanker slop. It's mostly reiterative, a clear sign of clanker slop. Clankers are reiterative in their slop. A lot of clanker slop is reiterative.

[–] abc@suppo.fi 41 points 1 day ago

That's an excellent point, and you're right to push back on this. Let me make an honest evaluation of the situation.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 16 hours ago

It felt repetitive to me too lol. I thought it scrolled back up to the top of something.

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[–] nevyn@slrpnk.net 2 points 15 hours ago

Having linus on board is terrible advertising for something that is meant to be good.

[–] ShredderFeeder@shredderfood.net 1 points 13 hours ago

Starlabs makes a better one ..and it doesn't suffer from having an investor named Linus Sebastian ..

[–] UsoSaito@feddit.uk 2 points 15 hours ago

Not in the market for a laptop currently but I do intend to keep them in mind since I use Linux.

[–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Huh I didn't realize laptops weren't repairable. That's like, what I do for a living.

[–] Prathas@lemmy.zip 2 points 13 hours ago

*more accessible to us peons, not a master like you!

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 7 points 22 hours ago (11 children)

They value a laptop that excels at providing value for money, a compact design, battery life, and brand familiarity.

Value for money on what timescale? Most seem to only think about the price vs the functionality a few days after purchase. Longer term, the ability to upgrade and repair components instead of pitching the whole thing would be higher value for money, but that's not how most consumers think.

A compact design is nice, but not the be-all-end-all if Framework can get in a reasonable size/weight range.

Battery life is an oxymoron here... the main issue I have with laptop battery life is after a few years of use it dwindles, eventually to zero. When the battery isn't replaceable, or is a proprietary form factor which costs nearly as much as a new laptop - that results in horrible battery life and value for money performance, but does generate new unit sales for non-repairable laptops.

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[–] magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

Lmk when they're corebooted.

Otherwise I'll stick with system76 or starlabs.

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[–] cheat700000007@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I haven't needed to buy a laptop since the company existed. If I did they'd be a strong contender

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