Linux Phones

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The Discussion on Linux-based Phones.


Benefits:

  • Hardware freedom.
  • Perfect operating-system competition.
  • Full utilization of specs.
  • Phone lifespan raises to 10+ years.
  • Less e-waste.

Linux Mobile Distros:

  • Ubuntu Touch
  • Sailfish
  • FuriOS
  • Postmarket OS
  • Mobian
  • Pure OS
  • Plasma Mobile
  • LuneOS
  • Nemomobile
  • Droidian
  • Mobile NixOS
  • ExpidusOS
  • Maemo Leste
  • Manjaro Arm
  • Tizen
  • WebOS

Linux Mobile Hardware:

  • Fairphone 5
  • Volla Phone
  • PinePhone
  • FLX1
  • Librem 5

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If anyone is able to volunteer that would be greatly appreciated as it would cover the time for when I’m away.

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Dan is a UK based full stack web developer who is working on Bookstack, a self-hostable wiki platform (MIT license).

On Google's recent announcement about developer verification he writes:

This is a massive leap in control, further centralising approval power to Google across the entire Android ecosystem while cementing themselves as the ultimate gatekeeper of what users can run on their own devices, all under the guise of security. This is a further step away from an open ecosystem, while being harmful to any platform competition & innovation.

...as a UK resident I feel my best bet to counter this is via the Competition & Markets Authority (CMA).

He includes his report as a basis for others to use perhaps.

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Just for fun and open some discussion/interest. Processor: Must support video output, linux is for who want a PC, not just a phone in their pocket (Is Risc-v an alternative here? open from ground?) Ram: 8GB min Storage: 64GB (external micro SD should be the real storage) Camera: 1 front and 1 back from a midrange of 5 yr ago is enough, if you want go pro buy a camera, otherwise AI is and will better than you) Battery:biggest as possible WiFi/Bluetooth/NFC as default for 2023 is nuff Monitor: 4k on a device big as hands is nonsense, better have anti reflection and low consumption, color e-ink is at early stage so an average one of '25 is enough Most important of all, price: must be under 300$!!!! otherwise Linux will never spread. Opinion on this? Have a nice we!!

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I've been considering a Linux cellphone for a long time, and Google's latest shenanigans finally decided me. I have a new phone on order that I will install Ubuntu Touch onto. Hopefully it won't be too much of a functional hit compared to CalyxOS.

Fuck Google with a broomstick.

Also, in case it bore repeating: fuck Google.

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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by 18107@aussie.zone to c/linuxphones@lemmy.ca
 
 

Do any combination of phones and OSes have support for desktop Linux apps, VoLTE, and dual-SIM?

I want to get away from Google. My current phone (Nokia G42) doesn't seem to have support for any OS except Android. My ideal setup would be a Fairphone 5 with Ubuntu Touch, but that doesn't seem to support dual-SIM.

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Hi, As my workplace only offers Samsung or Iphone, I am getting a new one after new years. Here I am wondering what to do with my old one. I wanna play around with Linux phone os, but it just seems like the different OS' doesn't work great with different hardware (or not at all).

I was wondering if someone in here might be able to guide me in the right direction. Thank you.

Kind regards Buller

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Hello. I was considering buying a Pixel phone and using GrapheneOS, but given the current issues with AOSP and Google’s developer verification for apps, which might effectively kill F-Droid, I’m no longer sure if it’s a viable option. So, I’ve been thinking about trying a Linux phone for daily use.

I’ve seen that SailfishOS is an option, specifically with the Jolla C2, but I’m not convinced by the phone itself due to its low-resolution screen and lack of a fingerprint reader. I do find it interesting that it allows easy installation of Android apps, which is quite important to me at the moment.

From what I’ve seen, I could buy a Sony Xperia 10 III Dual SIM (the Xperia 10 IV and V don’t support Android apps) and install SailfishOS, but this raises some questions:

  1. Is it worth buying this phone and installing SailfishOS? I don’t know if anyone has tried it or if there’s another phone or Linux distribution for phones you could recommend.
  2. The SailfishOS website states that this phone comes with version “4.4.0 Vanha Rauma 2022.” Is it possible to update it to the latest version? Where can I find out how long this phone will be supported?
  3. If I install SailfishOS on this phone, will the fingerprint reader work? Or does SailfishOS, regardless of the phone, not support this feature?
  4. I’ve seen that it’s possible to install MicroG on the Jolla C2, so I assume it’s also possible on the Xperia. But is it possible to install Android Auto along with “Android Auto - XLauncher Unlocked (AAXLU)” and have it work? I currently use “aa4mg” with “Android Auto - XLauncher Unlocked (AAXLU)” to run CoMaps in my car.
  5. Is there something similar to the “Play Integrity Fork” module, which I use with Magisk, to spoof apps into working? That’s what I currently use on my LineageOS phone.

Thank you very much.

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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by guismo@aussie.zone to c/linuxphones@lemmy.ca
 
 

I hope it's ok to post on this community. It seems to be the most active. Skip to the summary at the end if you are in a hurry.

Every time the issue with google's dick move come up, I barely see any mention to Jolla/SailfishOS. Why is this not the Linux phone that we should be supporting?

I bought an Xperia way back in 2018 I think, and bought their community support and installed. It was usable. I ended up giving up on it because it was much worse than the ungoogled android alternative back then. The GPS took a long time to work, a lot of stuff was rough.

And some things were great surprises that comes with using a Linux phone. Syncthing android wouldn't install, but then I just installed the normal Linux Syncthing like normal and it worked perfectly!

But now with google killing F-droid and such, even a rough Sailfish will be a better option. I didn't stop using it because it was unusable, but because open source android was better. Open source android will die, and Sailfish must have gotten better by now.

So why isn't it an option? One thing I heard people complaining is that they are charging yearly for updates. Is this the problem?

People, even the very rich and evil microsoft gave up on investing in their windows phones. And those massive companies can only do so by profiting a lot from personal data. Any company will need a massive investment to be an option. Specially until it gains traction, with a small user base, it MUST be very expensive. And we, who want to see Linux working on phones, must invest on it. Otherwise any company trying it will go bankrupt.

There are few of us, it's a massive undertaking. Those of us who can must invest on it. Put our money where our mouth is. It's sad, but the world runs on money. Linux was successful because massive companies profited from it and needed it. If Linux relied solely on donations do you think an average person could use a Linux desktop today?

And then there are those saying "it's stupid to start from scratch". Jolla didn't start from scratch. They came from Nokia and have been building SailfishOS for more than 10 years. There's a lot of work already done to be ignored.

And on top of it, it's not an american company. So no PRISM and other things on it. Specially with the orange king, it's a massive plus to have software free from their system, unlike AOSP, which can just forbid their use by any country the orange king doesn't like.

So, why is it not an option? And those currently using it, what's your experience? Those who bought Xperia and installed on it, how did it go?

TL;DR: Sailfish wasn't ideal before, but with google's dick move, that will be better than not having open source apps.

A phone system will be very expensive and we must pay the entry price to support it, if that's the reason people don't like Jolla.

Jolla has been on the market for a while and already did a lot of work. SailfishOS is not something from scratch, if that's the reason.

Anyone using it currently, how has the experience been for you?

EDIT: I forgot to mention. Bank apps, Facebook stuff and other massive companies apps probably won't work on Linux, nor degoogled phones, and never will. They are allergic to freedom and if you need them, an alternative OS is not for you. Just like Adobe never worked on Linux and probably never will. It's not profitable enough. If that's what you need, just accept google decisions because you don't have a choice. This post is not for that audience.

Links from A_norny_mousse that I missed:

https://sailfishos.org/
company: https://jolla.com/
download: https://shop.jolla.com/ => Get free trial (yes it requires an account, but there’s no timebomb in the trial)
docs: https://docs.sailfishos.org/ (thanks to the community!)
forums: https://forum.sailfishos.org/
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It was Cell Broadcast Test week in Germany, Droidian 101 was released, Jolla launch a voluntary subscription, Ubuntu Touch 24.04- 1.0 Call for Testing and more! Enjoy!

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The past week, masked as a link list: One more core Sailfish app being open-sourced, postmarketOS asking for feedback on upstream first development, iOS 14 in QEMU on a Linux phone, help find and fix Lomiri bugs, and ... nothing about KDE Akademy, yet. Enjoy!

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A few hours earlier than usual, the collection of past occurances: Google changing things to give #MobileLinux some market share, a podcast episode about Plasma Mobile and Plasma Bigscreen, some mainline camera fun, an introduction into Ubuntu Touch app development and more! Enjoy!

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