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[–] RichardDegenne@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've always attributed that first quote to Machiavelli, but I can't any source for it either. Am I crazy?

[–] saigot@lemmy.ca 5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

The most credible source I find credits it to an article by German satirist and journalist, Kurt tucholsky who was supposedly quoting a French diplomat in 1925

https://www.oxfordreference.com/display/10.1093/acref/9780191826719.001.0001/q-oro-ed4-00018040#Q-ORO-0004447

[–] RichardDegenne@lemmy.zip 1 points 14 hours ago

Neat, now to learn German, find this book and find who he was supposedly quoting 😂

I love that the reference includes "see Stalin" without any further context. We've come full circle 😶