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RAM prices soar, but popular Windows 11 apps are using more RAM due to Electron, Web components (www.windowslatest.com)
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  • Windows Latest discovered Discord and other Chromium and Electron-based applications with high RAM usage
  • RAM usage spikes from 1GB to 4GB on Discord both in and out of voice chat
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[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You're actually right, by now browsers have APIs to do most of the things apps do. Technically you could convert most apps to websites. I guess as a user I just don't want all my apps to open a tab in my browser. I want to move apps between virtual desktops and monitors independently and I don't want my app's window to be clattered by all the menus from my browser. On mobile I also prefer switching between apps than between different tabs. For me the best compromise is:

  • for system tools that don't have to be cross platform and critical apps write native apps
  • for small/medium cross platform apps use webviews like Webview2 or Tauri
  • for big apps like Teams or Discord just use a website
[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I guess as a user I just don’t want all my apps to open a tab in my browser. I want to move apps between virtual desktops and monitors independently and I don’t want my app’s window to be clattered by all the menus from my browser.

All this is already possible with most browsers.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Do you know any websites that integrate into Linux desktop and Android like native apps? I mean I can run it from cmd/icon, and it opens as new window without any decorations? I never saw it but if it's works fine it's an interesting option.

[–] dafta@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Those are called Progressive Web Apps (PWA). You can use firefox to add the website to your desktop like this: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Progressive_web_apps/Guides/Installing

Once you do, when you open the app it should have just the website without the tabs and everything else firefox does.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 points 9 hours ago

So I checked and my app done with Tauri uses 50MB of RAM. Simple PWAs I've checked using about:memory in Firefox use 40-50MB. Native apps done with egui or iced use ~25MB. The difference is really small and taking into account all the advantages of Tauri (more mature framework, easier packaging, better DX, better components library) I'm not very motivated to learn a native library just to save 20MB of RAM. PWA would be an interesting option (very similar to Tauri but maybe with easier distribution) but in the near future I want to work with Android Auto so I will need to work closely with native Android API and I already know how to do it with Tauri.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 2 points 3 days ago

Firefox requires a PWA extension.

And the extension requires a package from a 3rd party repo. Probably that's why I missed it until now. It works nice on Android though. Maybe I should do a PWA... But it's like... learn new tools, host it somewhere... I will think about it. Thanks!