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[–] fizzle@quokk.au -1 points 22 hours ago (11 children)

What a silly thing to say. This law doesn't stop parents teaching their kids they evils of social media.

[–] shads@lemy.lol 2 points 16 hours ago (10 children)

No, what it does is removes agency from parents and tells us that we aren't capable of raising our kids, the government will have to do it. My kids have been asking, for several years, to get Facebook accounts so they can use marketplace. I used that desire to have a frank discussion with them about how predatory Facebook is and how sinister it is that they have subsumed so many things that used to be independent and didn't require an account with them specifically so they can lock users in and Hoover up more data. I have told the kids that if they want Facebook accounts after they turn 18 they are welcome to open them then, but until that day I am not allowing them to give up their privacy. Do I seem disengaged as a parent?

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 1 points 15 hours ago (9 children)

Yes you really do seem... disengaged as a parent.

Prior to the ban, most parents wouldn't tell their kids they couldn't use social for fear of making them pariahs - excluded from something their peers are partaking of.

The ban provides parents with the agency to restrict their kids from using social, because at least the majority of kids won't be there.

I dont see how the ban prevents you from having conversations with your children?

[–] shads@lemy.lol 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I started writing out a detailed reply going into all the nuance, but I feel that it's a waste of time. I'm not sure if you are trolling as such, but you are being deliberately obtuse. I actually feel like you understand the points that people are making to you quite clearly. This is terrible legislation, it's a knee jerk reaction to a complex problem, with very few exceptions this is almost always a bad way of enacting policy.

The jab at my parenting because I already do the things you claim parents are too feeble to do without the government holding their hand is admittedly irritating, but I am going to choose to move past it.

This is the brainfart of a conservative grifter, it's satanic panic, it's the war on drugs, it's another populist policy being pitched at the unintelligent to draw their attention while the business and political interests behind it are picking their pocket. You choose not to see it that way then fine, but we both know it's true.

I am going to stop engaging with you now, feel free to have as many last says and derisive put downs as you want. I will not be reading them.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 1 points 7 hours ago

What jab about your parenting? You seem kinda defensive about that actually. Maybe get that looked at.

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