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I'll believe it when I see it. Lots of news of supposed breakthroughs in China all the time but hardly any of it actually leads to anything concrete so far.
deepseek? their EV cars that are ahead of whatever Americans are making?
DeepSeek was frankly oversold (people were making a big fuss about how it's better than others in every way but it was only more efficient and while I think that's notable, it was a far cry from what was being reported) and I personally don't think we should be investing that much time and energy in LLMs anyways. I'll give them that for EVs but they easily cost 2x of a standard ICE Japanese car here since China companies seem to be targeting the luxury car market so it didn't occur to me at all.
Not sure why you even brought up American cars to be honest.
That said, I was thinking more of semiconductors and there's been so much news of Huawei doing all sorts of things that have went nowhere so far.
their luxury EVs are twice as expensive as lower end ICE cars, is such a statement. i hope I just need to point it out for people to notice how logically flawed it is.
That would make sense if they actually sold lower end EVs where I live...
aren't they taking over the EU?
also, their amazing cities that came out nowhere in the last few decades, their high speed rail... I have lots of issues with China. but it is a good thing when the State invest in public infrastructure and it's people rather than the State being a tool for the wealthy to rob the public.
I'm in Asia lol. While China is fairly high profile being the largest Asian country here, plenty of other Asian countries do the same with investment in public infrastructure whole being a democratic nation.
that's good too.
it's ok to agree that one state you disagree with is doing something good. Just because the worst person you know likes pizza, doesn't mean that pizza is bad.
I can't personally criticise China's democracy because I'm in the US now, and I would argue the US isn't more democratic than China
What democracy? Lol. I don't think there's anything wrong with making your own judgments because even as you're in the US, you are more than the simple fact that you live in the US and so I don't think that invalidates your opinions.
As it is right now, the US is still more democratic than China is. It's trending towards authoritarianism but you guys can still vote can't you? Your politicians can still reasonably voice their disagreements with the president without suddenly disappearing without a trace isn't it? Heck, we can have this conversation right now without worrying this site gets banned or the whole thread censored by the state after all.
As dire as things are, I hope for your sake and the sake of the rest of the world that things improve. The last thing we need is for any 1 nation to have dominance in the world.
The 90s have called. They want their take on China back.