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[โ€“] TheFogan@programming.dev 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Can someone actually explain the Nazi Ukrain claims? I've actually tried to search because I want to know both sides even if I disagree with it, but I literally cannot find more than Putin says they are nazi's.

So like on an international level looking at facism on the rise, just going off the 12 signs.

Powerful and continuing nationalism

I can't quite say wanting to be your own country when another is invading is a fact there. I can see this in the US of our "american exceptionalism", and the way isreal is lobbying to basically consider themselves special status as examples of it going on today and now.

Disdain for human rights

Again in the US I can fully see it with our ICE and such, as well as unraveling of Roe vs Wade, burrying of Trans rights etc...

Identification of enemies as a unifying cause

Again can blatently see that in the US, hell as the president is even pushing the opposing party... in isreal I can see it with palestine, and Iran.

Rampant sexism

OK yeah I mean some level of that is all over the world

Controlled mass media

Again yeah strongly see that in the US with... the current presidency pushing it FCC putting pressure on stations to fire comedians and 60 minutes being pressured to pull stories, and in Russia and Isreal literally murdering journalists.

Obsession with national security

Kind of again super blatently a problem in the US, Hard to give judgement of it in ukrain because they are currently being invaded. While being invaded any nation is... well going to be obsessed with security.

Religion and government intertwined

OK so yeah again things I know of extreme with the US, and Isreal. Is this a case in Ukrain, again just looking for actual sources.

Corporate power protected
Labor power suppressed
Disdain for intellectual and the arts
Obsession with crime and punishment
Rampant cronyism and corruption

To blatent and direct to even begin to cover with regards to the US.

So my point is, I'd like actual sourced information. Again not trying to directly call it wrong, I'd like to see, a sourced argument that isn't "They are just nazi's, are you triggered?".