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[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They are going to do a lot more damage then Enron when their bubble pops.

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

What if it's not a bubble?

So I tried using some AI chatbots to find a movie recently, it made up a few, none being the answer.

(The question was about a historical movie, made in perhaps 1970s by the feeling, set someplace in southern France somewhere around 1650s, has a few beautiful views of nature and castles ; one scene where a guard captain enters a room, asks a question, as a power gesture drinks a glass of wine on the table and a minute later falls ; another scene where for whatever reason a rapier fight happens in something like a tavern, two women in pastel dresses are descending by an open ladder from the second floor, seeing the brawl take our pocket pistols, one of them is stabbed with a rapier ; another scene where a guy is getting questioned with his feet over the fire ; another when another guy is climbing a tower clinging at brick mortars outside and hears guards' boots on the ladder very loudly ; when I was a kid and saw that, someone said it's an adaptation of something by Lope de Vega, but I'm not sure that's correct ; that's just in case someone reading this knows such a movie.)

But some googling sessions they do optimize, without you the user ever having to browse a webpage, and just getting a textual answer. That's a valid use.

And some other processes. They don't have to be useful for all things they are applied to, just some profitable.

[–] andallthat@lemmy.world 3 points 10 minutes ago

Being a bubble does not mean the service they provide is useless. It means that the service is never generating enough profit to repay for the huge cost of providing it.

Would you pay 500 dollars a month to have the possibility to do your movie searches? Or alternatively, would you like your LLM of choice to counter that, having read all your emails and browser history, you are probably interested in a totally different movie that just happens to be playing now at a nearby cinema?

Because these AI companies are currently burning through literally a good chunk of all the cash in the world and they will eventually need to make even more gigantic profits to repay that cash. And the only one that is currently making money from AI seems to be NVIDIA, by selling the hardware that powers the AI giants.

I'm not saying that it IS all a bubble, by the way, as I can't read the future and these gigantic profits might well materialize in the future. I'm just saying that "bubble" and "useless" are different.

[–] YeahToast@aussie.zone 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Open AI has announced over $1trillion dollars in infrastructure spending. I think you'll find near on everyone agrees it's a bubble, just not agreeable how big or the timeline of the burst.

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 31 minutes ago

Well, one can say then also that US military is a bubble, it also hogs resources far bigger for the same results that poorer nations achieve. There are some things it does that can't be compared to others because nobody has the need or that much money, but what can be compared is not even factor 10+.

It keeps getting that funding because of the position in the world it occupies.

Or one can say that the Danish kingdom sitting on the Sound relying on custom fees for its budget and then going on adventures with mercenary troops was a bubble. That bubble was inflated and burst a few times before that happened finally (something-something Kiel canal), and for long enough periods of history that just was the reality.

It's a relative thing if something is sustainable or not. When people are talking about Earth being expected to exist for enough time to be more afraid of global warming and microplastics and such, it means that Earth's existence itself is usually assumed to be indefinitely sustainable in our frame of evaluation.

So what you said is true, but dotcoms also were a bubble.