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[–] recursive_recursion@lemmy.ca 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (6 children)

at this point, masking up in public provides protections for both health and privacy reasons

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 0 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Apple already demonstrated that you can still get pretty darn close from eyes and hair. Combine that with a bit of logic (There is a 40% chance this is Sally Smith but she also lives three streets over and works on that street) and you still have very good odds.

Well... unless you are black, brown, or asian. Since the facial recognition tech is heavily geared toward white people because tech bros.

[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Facial recognition works better on white people because, mathematically, they provide more information in real world camera use cases.

Darker skin reflects less light and dark contrast is much more difficult for cameras to capture unless you have significantly higher end equipment.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

For low contrast greyscale sequrity cameras? Sure.

For any modern even SD color camera in a decently lit scenario? Bullshit. It is just that most of this tech is usually trained/debugged on the developers and their friends and families and... yeah.

I always love to tell the story of, maybe a decade and a half ago, evaluating various facial recognition software. White people never had any problems. Even the various AAPI folk in the group would be hit or miss (except for one project out of Taiwan that was ridiculously accurate). And we weren't able to find a single package that consistently identified even the same black person.

And even professional shills like MKBHD will talk around this problem during his review ads (the apple vision video being particularly funny).

[–] fartsparkles@sh.itjust.works 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You’re not wrong. Research into models trained on racially balanced datasets has shown better recognition performance among with reduced biases. This was in limited and GAN generated faces so it still needs to be recreated with real-world data but it shows promise that balancing training data should reduce bias.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but this is (basically) reddit and clearly it isn't racism and is just a problem of multi megapixel cameras not being sufficient to properly handle the needs of phrenology.

There is definitely some truth to needing to tweak how feature points (?) are computed and the like. But yeah, training data goes a long way and this is why there was a really big push to get better training data sets out there... until we all realized those would predominantly be used by corporations and that people don't really want to be the next Lenna because they let some kid take a picture of them for extra credit during an undergrad course.

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